Is Jesus Christ actually God? by Rango 2014/12/25 17:17
John 17:3, NW: "[This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.]"
What does it mean by 'The only true God".Does it not come to mind that there are very many other Gods and then among all, there is only one true God, Jehovah, the almighty?!
Take an example of gods you have recently heard; god of war, god of the rain and all other gods.
John 17:3, NW: "[This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.]"
What does it mean by 'The only true God".Does it not come to mind that there are very many other Gods and then among all, there is only one true God, Jehovah, the almighty?!
Take an example of gods you have recently heard; god of war, god of the rain and all other gods.
Rango 2014/12/25 17:28
The Hebrew language uses terms for "God" that convey the idea of strength, also of majesty, dignity, and excellence.What is called a god has those qualities.
You may ask, 'If Jehovah is "the only true God", what kind of "God" is Jesus?
The Hebrew language uses terms for "God" that convey the idea of strength, also of majesty, dignity, and excellence.What is called a god has those qualities.
You may ask, 'If Jehovah is "the only true God", what kind of "God" is Jesus?
Rango 2014/12/25 17:53
Jesus himself referred to his Father as "the only true God." (John 17:3) Jehovah himself said:"Besides me there is no God."(Isa. 44:6) So Jehovah is unique;no one else shares his position.Jesus is spoken of in the Scriptures as a god, even as "Mighty God." (John 1:1; Isa. 9:6) but nowhere is he spoken of as being Almighty, as jehovah is.(Gen. 17:1) Jesus is said to be "the reflection of [God's] glory," but the father ir the source of that glory.
Jesus himself referred to his Father as "the only true God." (John 17:3) Jehovah himself said:"Besides me there is no God."(Isa. 44:6) So Jehovah is unique;no one else shares his position.Jesus is spoken of in the Scriptures as a god, even as "Mighty God." (John 1:1; Isa. 9:6) but nowhere is he spoken of as being Almighty, as jehovah is.(Gen. 17:1) Jesus is said to be "the reflection of [God's] glory," but the father ir the source of that glory.
Rango 2014/12/25 18:03
(Heb. 1:3) Jesus in no way seeks the position of his father.He said; "It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service." (Luke 4:8) He exists "in God's form," and the father has commanded that "in the name of Jesus every knee should bend," but this is all done "to the glory of God the Father." Phil. 2:5-11
(Heb. 1:3) Jesus in no way seeks the position of his father.He said; "It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service." (Luke 4:8) He exists "in God's form," and the father has commanded that "in the name of Jesus every knee should bend," but this is all done "to the glory of God the Father." Phil. 2:5-11
bad-apple 2014/12/27 17:52
Bro let me ask you how many versions of the holy bible exist... the original scripture revealed by God to Jesus was in Hebrew language.. the ones you see in English are modified and don't reflect truely the original scripture... Jesus was a prophet and a messenger.. but he isn't and never will be the son of God.
Bro let me ask you how many versions of the holy bible exist... the original scripture revealed by God to Jesus was in Hebrew language.. the ones you see in English are modified and don't reflect truely the original scripture... Jesus was a prophet and a messenger.. but he isn't and never will be the son of God.
Kumz 2014/12/28 04:22
Ragnorak : M
(20:21) Mon, 29 Mar 10
Golden rule: Use this forum to explain what YOU believe, NOT to belittle what OTHERS believe. Thank you.
Quote: bad-apple: Bro let me ask you how many versions of the holy bible exist... the original scripture revealed by God to Jesus was in Hebrew language.. the ones you see in English are modified and don't reflect truely the original scripture... Jesus was a prophet and a messenger.. but he isn't and never will be the son of God.
Ragnorak : M
(20:21) Mon, 29 Mar 10
Golden rule: Use this forum to explain what YOU believe, NOT to belittle what OTHERS believe. Thank you.
bad-apple 2014/12/29 15:08
Quote: Kumz: perhaps if you said "...but according to my religion, Jesus was a prophet and not the son of god." instead of belittling his belief and trying to show that he is wrong.
.if he is wrong, I can point it out..it is just a healthy debate, I didn't disrespect his religion..plus the person can speak for himself..I don't see why you are dragging yourself into it..if u are a Christian, plz note I didn't mean to offend you
Rango 2014/12/29 17:01
Correct me wr i go wrong
You believe;
He was a son of Mary and Joseph
He was just a prophet and not a son of God
He died, ressurected, and went to heaven with whole of his body
Quote: bad-apple: .if he is wrong, I can point it out..it is just a healthy debate, I didn't disrespect his religion..plus the person can speak for himself..I don't see why you are dragging yourself into it..if u are a Christian, plz note I didn't mean to offend you
Correct me wr i go wrong
You believe;
He was a son of Mary and Joseph
He was just a prophet and not a son of God
He died, ressurected, and went to heaven with whole of his body
Rango 2014/12/29 17:18
Ynu believe;
He died before completing his mission on earth, and that he will come back to complete his mission after everyone on earth has died.No one knows his mission.
Perhaps this is what i believe;
I believe that HE was ressurected as a spirit and went to heaven as a spirit person, not as a human.1 Pet. 3:18, 1 Cor. 15:45, Acts 10:40, 41
I believe there will never be a time when the earth is empty;when everyone has died
I believe i know his mission.He came to teach the good news of the kingdom
Ynu believe;
He died before completing his mission on earth, and that he will come back to complete his mission after everyone on earth has died.No one knows his mission.
Perhaps this is what i believe;
I believe that HE was ressurected as a spirit and went to heaven as a spirit person, not as a human.1 Pet. 3:18, 1 Cor. 15:45, Acts 10:40, 41
I believe there will never be a time when the earth is empty;when everyone has died
I believe i know his mission.He came to teach the good news of the kingdom
Rango 2014/12/29 17:23
I god more if u need info. scriptures.If there is any u cant understand, just comment.For more info. on this, refer to my other topic "Was Jesus Christ merely a prophet" found in this forum.thx
I god more if u need info. scriptures.If there is any u cant understand, just comment.For more info. on this, refer to my other topic "Was Jesus Christ merely a prophet" found in this forum.thx
bad-apple 2014/12/30 04:33
Quote: Rango:
Correct me wr i go wrong
You believe;
He was a son of Mary and Joseph
He was just a prophet and not a son of God
He died, ressurected, and went to heaven with whole of his body
the point is Jesus was born to virgin Mary..I also believe Jesus was a prophet , not the son of God.. Jesus wasn't crucified and he will return to defeat dajjal..(anti christ).. I encourage you to read about Dr.yousuf estes.
Correct me wr i go wrong
You believe;
He was a son of Mary and Joseph
He was just a prophet and not a son of God
He died, ressurected, and went to heaven with whole of his body
Rango 2014/12/30 09:09
Can u pliz quote scriptures in English from your "HOLLY BOOK" that prove that Jesus was merely a prophet.Scriptures that can explain his origin and destination.
Can u pliz quote scriptures in English from your "HOLLY BOOK" that prove that Jesus was merely a prophet.Scriptures that can explain his origin and destination.
detrimentum 2014/12/30 11:46
It means that though people believe in many gods, there is only One. Not that there's literally more than one deity.
Quote: Rango: John 17:3, NW: "[This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.]"
What does it mean by 'The only true God".Does it not come to mind that there are very many other Gods and then among all, there is only one true God, Jehovah, the almighty?!
Take an example of gods you have recently heard; god of war, god of the rain and all other gods.
What does it mean by 'The only true God".Does it not come to mind that there are very many other Gods and then among all, there is only one true God, Jehovah, the almighty?!
Take an example of gods you have recently heard; god of war, god of the rain and all other gods.
It means that though people believe in many gods, there is only One. Not that there's literally more than one deity.
Samuel099 2014/12/30 12:08
Lol bad-apple stop debating cos god hate that! believe in what u think is your god. I cant even waste my time to pork myself into this issues. just read on KJV thats the only true bible thats why USA want it to be banned.
Lol bad-apple stop debating cos god hate that! believe in what u think is your god. I cant even waste my time to pork myself into this issues. just read on KJV thats the only true bible thats why USA want it to be banned.
detrimentum 2014/12/30 12:37
I'd much rather have this argument with bad_apple.... anyway... So He is a lesser god and not a God?
Quote: Rango:
It means that even though Jesus is called a god, he is not the true God;- God the almighty
It means that even though Jesus is called a god, he is not the true God;- God the almighty
I'd much rather have this argument with bad_apple.... anyway... So He is a lesser god and not a God?
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