Yemen: UK's part
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detrimentum
2015/08/29 17:55
Al-Baghdadi, Al-Assad, Al-Sisi, Netanyahu, Rouhani these regional goliaths with their recent adventures have swallowed up the available column inches. So when Human Rights Watch, the United Nations and Amnesty International yell: WAR CRIMES IN YEMEN; nobody, sadly, is listening. This has to change. As it stands, British taxpayers are fuelling a conflict in which war crimes are almost definitely being committed. Tobias Ellwood, a junior minister at the Foreign Office, told Parliament late last month that while British personnel were not on the front line, the UK was not only providing technical support and exchanging information...through pre-existing arrangements but also supplying precision-guided weapons. Ellwood also told the Commons that British troops were now deployed at the air and maritime headquarters for the Saudi co-ordinated invasion. When pressed by Labour MP Andrew Smith, Defence Secretary Michael Fallon would not reveal the number of bombs we had given the Saudis, saying it would harm relations between the two countries. Fallon did say, somewhat unconvincingly, that Riyadh had assured [the UK] that British- supplied munitions will be used in compliance with international humanitarian law and we continue to engage with them on these assurances.
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detrimentum
2015/08/29 17:56
The issue is the Saudi-led coalition isnt complying with international humanitarian law, at all. This has been clear for months. In April, the United Nations accused coalition warplanes of killing 40 civilians - including seven children - after bombing a bridge. By that point, there had already been around 1,500 non-combatant deaths. In the same month, Human Rights Watch acquired videos and photos suggesting the coalition were using American-manufactured cluster bombs, and more evidence has emerged since. Last week, US officials even admitted they were being used. In May, the UN rapped Riyadh again for targeting hospitals and schools, during a brutal 24 hour barrage encompassing 130 airstrikes. The entirety of Sadaa was deemed a military target, meaning thousands had to flee their homes. Earlier this month, another critical report appeared from Amnesty International. A Saudi spokesperson appeared on Al Jazeera desperately refuting their claims saying that researchers in a London office can't make assessments of what is going on in Yemen.
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detrimentum
2015/08/29 17:57
This was a blatant lie. As the report made clear, a number of Amnesty delegates had visited Yemen in June and July. The frenetic exculpations of the Saudi spin doctor are best explained by the damning nature of the researchers' findings; deliberate targeting of civilians, with Amnesty concluding that such attacks constitute war crimes. A fact-finding mission by a Human Rights Watch researcher earlier this month found similar. In spite of the above, Defence Secretary Fallon conveys to the British Parliament that Riyadh has assured British-supplied munitions will be used in compliance with international humanitarian law. This is a carefully worded statement. British- supplied suggests that it is perfectly OK for our allies to commit war crimes, so long as they don't use British bombs. It is shocking to see such semantics deployed. For every bomb we give the Saudis; true, they may not commit war crimes with that particular weapon, but it simply frees up more resources to commit war crimes elsewhere.
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detrimentum
2015/08/29 17:59
The second part of Fallon's statement is even more cynical - we continue to engage with [the Saudis] on these assurances. How convenient then, in case British-supplied munitions are later found to have been used illegally it will surely be the Saudis fault for not notifying the British government of their transgressions. Fallon, Ellwood and their Conservative government will be off the hook. This isn't the UK supplying fighter jets to Saudi Arabia or the UAE, which they later happen to use for war crimes, this is a live conflict, in which war crimes are being committed right now (by both sides, which is an important point). Not only are British troops deployed, but hi-tech explosives are being sent over by our own Ministry of Defence to keep the war going. Just as Tehran is arming the Houthi war criminals, Whitehall is arming the Saudi war criminals. This should be a front-page scandal, but Fleet Street has focused their energies elsewhere. Quietly and insistently, the UK is getting away with murder. https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/articles/middle-east/20594-yemen-the-war-nobody-is-talking-about
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NinthElement
2015/08/29 19:23
The UK and US governments keep sucking up to the Saudis because of all the oil they control. It is pretty sickening how they always give them the benefit of the doubt over war crimes or turn a blind eye to human rights abuses there.
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SkY2k
2015/08/29 19:52
Ragnorak: The UK and US governments keep sucking up to the Saudis because of all the oil they control. It is pretty sickening how they always give them the benefit of the doubt over war crimes or turn a blind eye to human rights abuses there.
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Xiao Zen
2015/08/30 05:12
Eeprom: F%*k mee that's too long to read and i bet you forget to quote your source smiley the yemen is either voluntary or non-voluntary one evilist islamist anti-western anti non radical muslins countries only outbeaten by iran!
"https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/articles/middle-east/20594-yemen-the-war-nobody-is-talking-about" The source is quoted at the bottom of the last post.
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detrimentum
2015/08/30 06:44
Eeprom: F%*k mee that's too long to read and i bet you forget to quote your source smiley the yemen is either voluntary or non-voluntary one evilist islamist anti-western anti non radical muslins countries only outbeaten by iran!
yeah, this isn't about Yemen being evil. This is about the UK being evil. And the UK being mentally impaired, i mean, one day they are concerned about human smuggling and migrants dying, the next day they are funding a war that will lead to more smuggling and migrants. Pitty we cant call them terrorists hey? Anyway, i suggest you stop paying tax son, its going towards forcing people (migrants) to flood the UK, and before you know it theres 80% of them and you'll need to migrate yourself. Vicious cycle ain't it?
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NinthElement
2015/09/14 20:57
The UK press and BBC have been covering this story recently and challenging the goverment on it. Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/sep/11/britain-gives-aid-to-yemen-but-sells-bombs-to-its-enemies BBC News http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34211979 BBC Newsnight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqlrcVRzzhU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi5z4M5dm4o The interview with Tory MP Daniel Kawczynski is well worth watching, it's very telling how evasive he is on the issue and how he tries to cheaply deflect questions by attacking the BBC. More on this in the story below. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/daniel-kawczynski-tory-mp-considers-legal-action-after-patronising-bbc-newsnight-interview-10498328.html
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Boet
2015/09/16 02:00
I admit that i am not utterly kwnoledgeable on the subject, but could the underlying factor be economics, seeing that oil is perhaps one of the most valuable commodities?
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