Quran and bible say earth is flat
Aparichit 2013/06/20 09:10
Aparichit 2013/06/20 09:10
These are the Descriptive verses of kuran
Sura Al-Kahf (18:47)
And (remember) the Day We shall cause the mountains to pass away (like clouds of dust), and you will see the earth as a levelled plain, and we shall gather them all together so as to leave not one of them behind.
Sura Taha (20:53)
Who has made earth for you like a bed (spread out); and has opened roads (ways and paths etc.) for you therein; and has sent down water (rain) from the sky. And We have brought forth with it various kinds of vegetation.
Sura Az-Zukhruf (43:10)
Who has made for you the earth like a bed, and has made for you roads therein, in order that you may find your way.
Sura Az-Zukhruf (43:38)
Till, when (such a one) comes to Us, he says [to his Qarin (Satan / devil companion)] "Would that between me and you were the distance of the two easts (or the east and west)" a worst (type of) companion (indeed)!
Sura An-Naba (78:6)
Have We not made the earth as a bed,
Sura An-Naziat (79:30)
And after that He spread the earth;
These verses would only be applicable to a flat earth belief
Sura An-Naml (27:61)
Is not He (better than your gods) Who has made the earth as a fixed abode, and has placed rivers in its midst, and has placed firm mountains therein, and has set a barrier between the two seas (of salt and sweet water).Is there any ilah (god) with Allah? Nay, but most of them know not.
Sura Al-Kahf (18:86)
Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allah) said (by inspiration): "O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness."
Sura Al-Kahf (18:90)
Until, when he came to the rising place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We (All?h) had provided no shelter against the sun.
Sura Al-Kahf (18:47)
And (remember) the Day We shall cause the mountains to pass away (like clouds of dust), and you will see the earth as a levelled plain, and we shall gather them all together so as to leave not one of them behind.
Sura Taha (20:53)
Who has made earth for you like a bed (spread out); and has opened roads (ways and paths etc.) for you therein; and has sent down water (rain) from the sky. And We have brought forth with it various kinds of vegetation.
Sura Az-Zukhruf (43:10)
Who has made for you the earth like a bed, and has made for you roads therein, in order that you may find your way.
Sura Az-Zukhruf (43:38)
Till, when (such a one) comes to Us, he says [to his Qarin (Satan / devil companion)] "Would that between me and you were the distance of the two easts (or the east and west)" a worst (type of) companion (indeed)!
Sura An-Naba (78:6)
Have We not made the earth as a bed,
Sura An-Naziat (79:30)
And after that He spread the earth;
These verses would only be applicable to a flat earth belief
Sura An-Naml (27:61)
Is not He (better than your gods) Who has made the earth as a fixed abode, and has placed rivers in its midst, and has placed firm mountains therein, and has set a barrier between the two seas (of salt and sweet water).Is there any ilah (god) with Allah? Nay, but most of them know not.
Sura Al-Kahf (18:86)
Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allah) said (by inspiration): "O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness."
Sura Al-Kahf (18:90)
Until, when he came to the rising place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We (All?h) had provided no shelter against the sun.
Aparichit 2013/06/20 09:11
BIBLE:
"take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it (Job 38:12-13)
"[T]he devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them"
"The visions of my head as I lay in bed were these: I saw, and behold, a tree in the midst of the earth; and its height was great. The tree grew and became strong, and its top reached to heaven, and it was visible to the end of the whole earth. (Daniel 4:10-11)"
"To whom then will ye liken God? ....It is he that sitteth upon the circle (chuwg) of the earth (Isaiah 40:18-23)"
BIBLE:
"take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it (Job 38:12-13)
"[T]he devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them"
"The visions of my head as I lay in bed were these: I saw, and behold, a tree in the midst of the earth; and its height was great. The tree grew and became strong, and its top reached to heaven, and it was visible to the end of the whole earth. (Daniel 4:10-11)"
"To whom then will ye liken God? ....It is he that sitteth upon the circle (chuwg) of the earth (Isaiah 40:18-23)"
Aparichit 2013/06/20 09:13
More bible verses:
The earth takes shape like clay under a seal;
from Job 38:14
Genesis 11:1-9
The Tower of Babel
1 Now the whole world had one language and a common speech.
2 As men moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled there.
3 They said to each other, "Come, let's make bricks and bake them thoroughly." They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar.
4 Then they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves and not be scattered over the face of the whole earth."
5 But the LORD came down to see the city and the tower that the men were building.
6 The LORD said, "If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them.
7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."
8 So the LORD scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city.
9 That is why it was called Babel —because there the LORD confused the language of the whole world. From there the LORD scattered them over the face of the whole earth.
Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)
Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)
Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)
Jeremiah 16:19
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)
Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)
Matthew 4:8
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (KJV)
"He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)"
"The LORD reigns, he is robed in majesty; the LORD is robed in majesty and is armed with strength. The world [The deceiving translators should've said "earth", not "world"] is firmly established; it cannot be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 93:1)"
"Say among the nations, "The LORD reigns." The world [Again, the deceiving translators should've said "earth", not "world"] is firmly established, it cannot be moved; he will judge the peoples with equity. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 96:10)"
"The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises. (From the NIV Bible,
More bible verses:
The earth takes shape like clay under a seal;
from Job 38:14
Genesis 11:1-9
The Tower of Babel
1 Now the whole world had one language and a common speech.
2 As men moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled there.
3 They said to each other, "Come, let's make bricks and bake them thoroughly." They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar.
4 Then they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves and not be scattered over the face of the whole earth."
5 But the LORD came down to see the city and the tower that the men were building.
6 The LORD said, "If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them.
7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."
8 So the LORD scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city.
9 That is why it was called Babel —because there the LORD confused the language of the whole world. From there the LORD scattered them over the face of the whole earth.
Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)
Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)
Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)
Jeremiah 16:19
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)
Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)
Matthew 4:8
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (KJV)
"He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)"
"The LORD reigns, he is robed in majesty; the LORD is robed in majesty and is armed with strength. The world [The deceiving translators should've said "earth", not "world"] is firmly established; it cannot be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 93:1)"
"Say among the nations, "The LORD reigns." The world [Again, the deceiving translators should've said "earth", not "world"] is firmly established, it cannot be moved; he will judge the peoples with equity. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 96:10)"
"The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises. (From the NIV Bible,
Aparichit 2013/06/20 09:19
It shows that these books were wrote by men who,in that time didn't know that earth is round or elliptical And it travels along a path round the SUN instead of sun rising and setting around or over earth
It shows that these books were wrote by men who,in that time didn't know that earth is round or elliptical And it travels along a path round the SUN instead of sun rising and setting around or over earth
Aparichit 2013/06/20 09:27
Few more kuran verses... 1}Muhammad claimed earth is flat carpet and sun revolves arond earth and stars are at bottom sky ,being the light lamp of lower heaven which is sick thought = correct from quaran[Sura Al-Kahf (18:47)][Sura Taha (20:53)][Sura Az-Zukhruf (43:10)][Sura An-Naziat (79:30)][Sura Al-Kahf (18:86)] 2}Muhammad discovered water existed before the creation of earth in space without any oxygen 3}Muhammad discovered SUN HAS A RESTING PLACE IN MURKY WATERS 36.38 And the sun runs to a fixed resting-place (every evening) -18:86: Until, when he reached the setting of the Sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water; MOON GIVES LIGHT 4}Muhammad discovered that 071.016 :"the moon a light STARS ARE LIGHTS ATTACHED TO THE LOWEST SKY 5}prophet also discovered that Stars have dual purpose. They are lights attached to the lowest sky for decoration. But when the satans try to spy on Allah, Allah uses them as missiles to shoot the vermins down. 6}Muhammad discovered that SKY IS THE ROOF/CANOPY WITHOUT PILLARS Q. 2:22 Who made the earth a bed for you, and the sky it’s roof 13.2 Allah is He Who raised the sky without any pillars (Alhamdulillah) SKY STORES AND DELIVERS WATER 2.22 Sky is a canopy over earth from which Allah delivers water. IT HAS NO CRACKS 7}Muhammad also discovered that since sky stores water Allah made sure that it has no cracks. 50.6 Sky is built with no cracks. ALLAH HIMSELF INSURED EARTHS SAFETY FROM A FALLING SKY 8}Great scientist muhammad teach us that MOUNTAINS ARE PEGS TO HOLD THE EARTH FIRM Q. 78.6-7 And the earth We have spread out like a carpet ; We set Mountains on it to make it firm and immovable. 9}Allah's apostle also discovered how human races were created Allah used different raw material to make different races of men. BLACK PEOPLE 15.26 We created them of black mud. LIGHTER PEOPLE 11:61s He hath produced you from the earth (sand).
Few more kuran verses... 1}Muhammad claimed earth is flat carpet and sun revolves arond earth and stars are at bottom sky ,being the light lamp of lower heaven which is sick thought = correct from quaran[Sura Al-Kahf (18:47)][Sura Taha (20:53)][Sura Az-Zukhruf (43:10)][Sura An-Naziat (79:30)][Sura Al-Kahf (18:86)] 2}Muhammad discovered water existed before the creation of earth in space without any oxygen 3}Muhammad discovered SUN HAS A RESTING PLACE IN MURKY WATERS 36.38 And the sun runs to a fixed resting-place (every evening) -18:86: Until, when he reached the setting of the Sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water; MOON GIVES LIGHT 4}Muhammad discovered that 071.016 :"the moon a light STARS ARE LIGHTS ATTACHED TO THE LOWEST SKY 5}prophet also discovered that Stars have dual purpose. They are lights attached to the lowest sky for decoration. But when the satans try to spy on Allah, Allah uses them as missiles to shoot the vermins down. 6}Muhammad discovered that SKY IS THE ROOF/CANOPY WITHOUT PILLARS Q. 2:22 Who made the earth a bed for you, and the sky it’s roof 13.2 Allah is He Who raised the sky without any pillars (Alhamdulillah) SKY STORES AND DELIVERS WATER 2.22 Sky is a canopy over earth from which Allah delivers water. IT HAS NO CRACKS 7}Muhammad also discovered that since sky stores water Allah made sure that it has no cracks. 50.6 Sky is built with no cracks. ALLAH HIMSELF INSURED EARTHS SAFETY FROM A FALLING SKY 8}Great scientist muhammad teach us that MOUNTAINS ARE PEGS TO HOLD THE EARTH FIRM Q. 78.6-7 And the earth We have spread out like a carpet ; We set Mountains on it to make it firm and immovable. 9}Allah's apostle also discovered how human races were created Allah used different raw material to make different races of men. BLACK PEOPLE 15.26 We created them of black mud. LIGHTER PEOPLE 11:61s He hath produced you from the earth (sand).
Aparichit 2013/06/21 09:14
The correct explanation we may ever find is in the scriptures of Hinduism Which is known to be the oldest religion and civilization on earth...
Let us observe this Vedic Mantra of Rigveda
*Cakracasah parinaham prthivya{Rig veda 1.33.8}
It says"people who reside on the surface of earth circumference"
* madhye samantandasya bhugolo vyomni tisthati{12th ch-32 sloka}
It means 'In the midst of universe{Brahmanda},the spherical earth stands firm in the space"
And there is a word in Sanskrit for the earth: "Bhoogol" ... In which Bhoo=earth or ground AND Gol=Round . So it is clear even from the oldest language SANSKRIT that this fact that the earth is round was known to indians Millions of years ago.
And in context of sun,before the science found that the light spectrum consists of seven colours,It was already present in hindu scriptures as 'Seven horses of lord SUN'
The correct explanation we may ever find is in the scriptures of Hinduism Which is known to be the oldest religion and civilization on earth...
Let us observe this Vedic Mantra of Rigveda
*Cakracasah parinaham prthivya{Rig veda 1.33.8}
It says"people who reside on the surface of earth circumference"
* madhye samantandasya bhugolo vyomni tisthati{12th ch-32 sloka}
It means 'In the midst of universe{Brahmanda},the spherical earth stands firm in the space"
And there is a word in Sanskrit for the earth: "Bhoogol" ... In which Bhoo=earth or ground AND Gol=Round . So it is clear even from the oldest language SANSKRIT that this fact that the earth is round was known to indians Millions of years ago.
And in context of sun,before the science found that the light spectrum consists of seven colours,It was already present in hindu scriptures as 'Seven horses of lord SUN'
Aparichit 2013/06/21 09:20
There are many examples in indian Scriptures which proves it is ahead of the current scientific system. I am not trying to show how great hinduism or indian culture is OR how faulty others are, But I am trying to show some facts which unfolds the hidden truth of our history... We're being told lies by our ancestors. We have to refresh our mind and resarch over the thing we're being taught, mat that be muslim regions,christian terretories or Hindu ones. We should not follow anything or anyone blindly. Search your own path with your own wisdom.
There are many examples in indian Scriptures which proves it is ahead of the current scientific system. I am not trying to show how great hinduism or indian culture is OR how faulty others are, But I am trying to show some facts which unfolds the hidden truth of our history... We're being told lies by our ancestors. We have to refresh our mind and resarch over the thing we're being taught, mat that be muslim regions,christian terretories or Hindu ones. We should not follow anything or anyone blindly. Search your own path with your own wisdom.
Okikiola 2013/08/16 09:06
Aparichit: It shows that these books were wrote by men who,in that time didn't know that earth is round or elliptical And it travels along a path round the SUN instead of sun rising and setting around or over earth
For the above reply, you ain't a Muslim so you cant understand the verse, you lacked wisdom also to understand the meaning.. Your first verse you quoted 'Sura kahf' that verse was a warning, God is telling human to remember the day He [God] will make the earth flat, when the mountains, hills and valley will collapse, the day when everything on earth will vanish, the only day when only human will be raised from the dead and the judgement shall be passed upon. I hope you get it now and meanwhile, God has said it that, the Quran is a book of wisdom, it requires wisdom to understand, you cannot just start reading it and understand when it is not (Oxford advance learner dictionary), you will need a mentor who has completed learning the book, go to them and they will explain to you. May God lead you to the right path. (AMEN)
Aparichit 2013/08/21 05:54
Obviously only muslims will understand ur translation because they are wise to change the meaning when the facts are against them. I don't need that kind of wisdom. Thanks
Okikiola: For the above reply, you ain't a Muslim so you cant understand the verse, you lacked wisdom also to understand the meaning.. Your first verse you quoted 'Sura kahf' that verse was a warning, God is telling human to remember the day He [God] will make the earth flat, when the mountains, hills and valley will collapse, the day when everything on earth will vanish, the only day when only human will be raised from the dead and the judgement shall be passed upon. I hope you get it now and meanwhile, God has said it that, the Quran is a book of wisdom, it requires wisdom to understand, you cannot just start reading it and understand when it is not (Oxford advance learner dictionary), you will need a mentor who has completed learning the book, go to them and they will explain to you. May God lead you to the right path. (AMEN)
Obviously only muslims will understand ur translation because they are wise to change the meaning when the facts are against them. I don't need that kind of wisdom. Thanks
_LeGoLaS_ 2015/01/13 16:52
Okikiola: For the above reply, you ain't a Muslim so you cant understand the verse, you lacked wisdom also to understand the meaning.. Your first verse you quoted 'Sura kahf' that verse was a warning, God is telling human to remember the day He [God] will make the earth flat, when the mountains, hills and valley will collapse, the day when everything on earth will vanish, the only day when only human will be raised from the dead and the judgement shall be passed upon. I hope you get it now and meanwhile, God has said it that, the Quran is a book of wisdom, it requires wisdom to understand, you cannot just start reading it and understand when it is not (Oxford advance learner dictionary), you will need a mentor who has completed learning the book, go to them and they will explain to you. May God lead you to the right path. (AMEN)
earth or any planet make.flat.at any.day haha so this is also crap :-D
bad-apple 2015/01/16 06:36
1. Earth made as a carpet
The question refers to a verse from the Qur’an in Surah Nuh:
"And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out)." The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 71, Verse 19
But the sentence in the above verse is not complete. It continues in the next verse, explaining the previous verse. It says: "That ye may go about therein, in spacious roads." The Holy Quran, Chapter 71, Verse 20
A similar message is repeated in Surah TaHa:
"He Who has made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels)...." The Holy Quran, Chapter 20, Verse 53
The surface of the earth i.e. earth’s crust is less than 30 miles in thickness and is very thin as compared to the radius of the earth which is about 3750 miles. The deeper layers of the earth are very hot, fluid and hostile to any form of life. The earth’s crust is a solidified shell on which we can live. The Quran rightly refers to it like a carpet spread out, so that we can travel along its roads and paths.
2. Carpet can also be spread on other than an absolute flat surface
Not a single verse of the Quran says that the earth is flat. The Quran only compares the earth’s crust with a carpet. Some people seem to think that carpet can only be put on an absolute flat surface. It is possible to spread a carpet on a large sphere such as the earth. It can easily be demonstrated by taking a huge model of the earth’s globe covering it with a carpet.
Carpet is generally put on a surface, which is not very comfortable to walk on. The Quran describes the earth crust as a carpet, without which human beings would not be able to survive because of the hot, fluid and hostile environment beneath it. The Quran is thus not only logical, it is mentioning a scientific fact that was discovered by geologists centuries later.
3. Earth has been spread out
Similarly, the Quran says in several verses that the earth has been spread out.
"And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: how excellently We do spread out!" The Holy Quran, Chapter 51, Verse 48
Similarly the Quran also mentions in several other verses that the earth is an expanse:
"Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse. And the mountains as pegs?" The Holy Quran, Chapter 78, Verse 6-7
None of these verses of the Quran contain even the slightest implication that the earth is flat. It only indicates that the earth is spacious and the reason for this spaciousness of the earth is mentioned. The Quran says:
"O My servants who believe! truly. spacious is My Earth: therefore serve ye Me –(And Me alone)!"
The Holy Quran, Chapter 29, Verse 56
Therefore none can give the excuse, that he could not do good and was forced to do evil because of the surroundings and circumstances.
1. Earth made as a carpet
The question refers to a verse from the Qur’an in Surah Nuh:
"And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out)." The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 71, Verse 19
But the sentence in the above verse is not complete. It continues in the next verse, explaining the previous verse. It says: "That ye may go about therein, in spacious roads." The Holy Quran, Chapter 71, Verse 20
A similar message is repeated in Surah TaHa:
"He Who has made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels)...." The Holy Quran, Chapter 20, Verse 53
The surface of the earth i.e. earth’s crust is less than 30 miles in thickness and is very thin as compared to the radius of the earth which is about 3750 miles. The deeper layers of the earth are very hot, fluid and hostile to any form of life. The earth’s crust is a solidified shell on which we can live. The Quran rightly refers to it like a carpet spread out, so that we can travel along its roads and paths.
2. Carpet can also be spread on other than an absolute flat surface
Not a single verse of the Quran says that the earth is flat. The Quran only compares the earth’s crust with a carpet. Some people seem to think that carpet can only be put on an absolute flat surface. It is possible to spread a carpet on a large sphere such as the earth. It can easily be demonstrated by taking a huge model of the earth’s globe covering it with a carpet.
Carpet is generally put on a surface, which is not very comfortable to walk on. The Quran describes the earth crust as a carpet, without which human beings would not be able to survive because of the hot, fluid and hostile environment beneath it. The Quran is thus not only logical, it is mentioning a scientific fact that was discovered by geologists centuries later.
3. Earth has been spread out
Similarly, the Quran says in several verses that the earth has been spread out.
"And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: how excellently We do spread out!" The Holy Quran, Chapter 51, Verse 48
Similarly the Quran also mentions in several other verses that the earth is an expanse:
"Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse. And the mountains as pegs?" The Holy Quran, Chapter 78, Verse 6-7
None of these verses of the Quran contain even the slightest implication that the earth is flat. It only indicates that the earth is spacious and the reason for this spaciousness of the earth is mentioned. The Quran says:
"O My servants who believe! truly. spacious is My Earth: therefore serve ye Me –(And Me alone)!"
The Holy Quran, Chapter 29, Verse 56
Therefore none can give the excuse, that he could not do good and was forced to do evil because of the surroundings and circumstances.
bad-apple 2015/01/16 06:38
4. Earth is geospherical in shape
The Quran mentions the actual shape of the earth in the following verse: "And we have made the earth egg shaped". The Holy Quran, Chapter 79, Verse 30
The "dahu" in the Arabic Language means to extend and even out. It is said: "daha" the thing; "yad'hu dahwan". These terms can mean he either evened out and extended it or he threw it and rolled it. It is also said: "the rain daha the stones from the face of the earth," which means it rolled it and washed it away. It is also said: "The horse passed by yad'hu dahwan," which means he is beating his foot on the ground and yad'hu its sand. Also, the ostrich's mad'hi means its laying of its eggs, and "ad'hiha" is the nest where its chicks are born.
So as we clearly see, all of the above Arabic words that are derived from "daha" mean:
1- To extend.
2- To roll.
3- To even out.
4- Causing to become egg-shaped or creating, making or producing eggs (see the ostrich's mad'hi example above).
The meanings all derive from the root word in arabic, there is nothing wrong with applying all the meanings especially amazing in this situation seeing as they are all true. Arabic is a rich language and words usually have more then one meaning
The Arabic word dahaha in Noble Verse 79:30 above did have multiple meanings and uses. One of them was when one refers to an ostrich egg. Another was when referring to making something extended, spread out, stretched and/or expanded. This is an example of how Allah Almighty uses scientific notions in the Noble Quran when He talked about how He created certain things. He gave words that had multiple meanings and interpretations to them to make the Noble Quran truly be for all times and all places, and show it has deeper meanings. The meanings unravel more and more as scientific discoveries increase
The shape of the earth being similar to an oblate spheroid [ Also according to Wikipedia: "The Earth's shape is very close to an oblate spheroid—a rounded shape with a bulge around the equator—although the precise shape (the geoid) varies from this by up to 100 metres (327 ft)."
Eggs can be described as prolate spheroids, ovate spehroids or oblate spheroids. The fact is the word used in the Quran has particular root link to an ostrich egg
We are specifically observing an Ostrich egg which does resemble an Oblate Spheroid and NOT Prolate Spheroid. More over technical labeling is irrelevant since these are invented modern names that we ascribe to the earth. How would it make sense for God to describe the earth as an 'Oblate spheroid' 1400 years ago? Even if God were to describe the Earth as simply 'round' it would be incorrect. Describing the Earth as resembling an ostrich egg is very significant and precise as it was not only unique at the time but is still accurate and visually relevant
4. Earth is geospherical in shape
The Quran mentions the actual shape of the earth in the following verse: "And we have made the earth egg shaped". The Holy Quran, Chapter 79, Verse 30
The "dahu" in the Arabic Language means to extend and even out. It is said: "daha" the thing; "yad'hu dahwan". These terms can mean he either evened out and extended it or he threw it and rolled it. It is also said: "the rain daha the stones from the face of the earth," which means it rolled it and washed it away. It is also said: "The horse passed by yad'hu dahwan," which means he is beating his foot on the ground and yad'hu its sand. Also, the ostrich's mad'hi means its laying of its eggs, and "ad'hiha" is the nest where its chicks are born.
So as we clearly see, all of the above Arabic words that are derived from "daha" mean:
1- To extend.
2- To roll.
3- To even out.
4- Causing to become egg-shaped or creating, making or producing eggs (see the ostrich's mad'hi example above).
The meanings all derive from the root word in arabic, there is nothing wrong with applying all the meanings especially amazing in this situation seeing as they are all true. Arabic is a rich language and words usually have more then one meaning
The Arabic word dahaha in Noble Verse 79:30 above did have multiple meanings and uses. One of them was when one refers to an ostrich egg. Another was when referring to making something extended, spread out, stretched and/or expanded. This is an example of how Allah Almighty uses scientific notions in the Noble Quran when He talked about how He created certain things. He gave words that had multiple meanings and interpretations to them to make the Noble Quran truly be for all times and all places, and show it has deeper meanings. The meanings unravel more and more as scientific discoveries increase
The shape of the earth being similar to an oblate spheroid [ Also according to Wikipedia: "The Earth's shape is very close to an oblate spheroid—a rounded shape with a bulge around the equator—although the precise shape (the geoid) varies from this by up to 100 metres (327 ft)."
Eggs can be described as prolate spheroids, ovate spehroids or oblate spheroids. The fact is the word used in the Quran has particular root link to an ostrich egg
We are specifically observing an Ostrich egg which does resemble an Oblate Spheroid and NOT Prolate Spheroid. More over technical labeling is irrelevant since these are invented modern names that we ascribe to the earth. How would it make sense for God to describe the earth as an 'Oblate spheroid' 1400 years ago? Even if God were to describe the Earth as simply 'round' it would be incorrect. Describing the Earth as resembling an ostrich egg is very significant and precise as it was not only unique at the time but is still accurate and visually relevant
bad-apple 2015/01/16 06:38
Thus its not just a case of bad translation, the words in arabic have multiple meanings and all cant be used at once however deeper analysis do show that all the meanings are accurate. This however is not likely to convince the non muslim who most probably thinks the muslims are stretching it abit and using words they want to use, which is their choice and is fair enough. But to say the verses are irrelevant is incorrect, they certainly have some merit
Thus the allegation is untrue, the Quran and modern established science are in perfect harmony.
Thus its not just a case of bad translation, the words in arabic have multiple meanings and all cant be used at once however deeper analysis do show that all the meanings are accurate. This however is not likely to convince the non muslim who most probably thinks the muslims are stretching it abit and using words they want to use, which is their choice and is fair enough. But to say the verses are irrelevant is incorrect, they certainly have some merit
Thus the allegation is untrue, the Quran and modern established science are in perfect harmony.
_LeGoLaS_ 2015/01/18 17:12
for their God earth is flat , sun.rotate around earth , humans are from one drop( no participation of ovum)
for their God earth is flat , sun.rotate around earth , humans are from one drop( no participation of ovum)
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