ok my opinion is there will b end in 2012 but not like all have bn told it will just b a new start of things, ie. climates will settle. we all seeing changes in mother earth and climates all over the world, which alot r seeing as signs as the end of the world. i believe by end of oct beginning of nov 2012 most of that will settle and will even out for the next 100 yrs or so

Ok, but why do you believe that? Please explain thanks Mizz Spoon

y i believe that? hmmmmm lets say its a feeling i get lol

Nope sorry feelings arent good enough, this is supposed to be about why you believe it and how it affects your beliefs if this does not happen

my beliefs r based on my feelings and wot i forsee so it is related to my beliefs

i d0nt believe in a d00msday... Everything dats happen n0w, like floods, earthquakes, war ect, was, is and will be... Nature will stabelise itself...

So then all floods, earthquakes etc etc has nothing to do with God then, its all just normal events, its nature correct?

yip its nature

hurricanes, t0rnad0's, cycl0nes, volcan0es, earthquakes, floods, dr0ughts is nature... The inescapable fact is that the weather is always there, and what it is 2day, right n0w, it may n0t be t0m0rr0w or even in an h0ur's time... 4 interacting fact0rs determine our weather...

In the fourteenth, fifteenth, if I'm correct, century, a wave of particularly cold climate in Europe caused the failure of crops, and successively hunger and disease. Damp and lack of sunlight often made life difficult for people, other animals and vegetation. Such times, in human history, triggered (not entirely caused) the 30 year war in Europe and curious trends of human mass cruelty such as the widespread organised witch hunts. 'Sin', 'devil', and 'God's punishment' were the keywords used to explain the hardships which irregularities in climate brought. In the way a re-action to environmental impacts can occur in form of religious or para-religious superstition there can also be the prophetic version of the same; humans may then interprete anything they happen to come across -the ending of an ancient calendar, an article in some religiously inspired literature etc - as 'proof' of impending doom. This again leads to a form of witch hunting, whereby people become increasingly convinced their religion is THE religion etc. There have been times of much hotter or much colder climate (with all the natural corresponding effects) even in the tiny period of time during which humans have populated this planet. However, people mostly have, just like other animals, no concept of history, or of what could be learned from it. The belief that homo sapiens is the only mammal capable of observing, retaining and utilising history may be true in its principle, does, however, not have the practical impact on human life in the way it is taken for granted. Instead, humans refuse to make use of the mental capabilities they could have at their disposal, and prefer to be immersed in reiterated thinking about why 'God needs to punish them', or 'how they can repent their sins' - themes which, while they are entirely convinced of their indisputable reality according to their anthropocentrically limited thinking, are connected directly to what's going on around them (and because of them!).

i agree with m0use, there are many MYTHES ab0ut nature

So then is it safe to say that all this talk is nonsense and these are normal natural events and have nothing to do with God whatsoever correct?

nothing wil be in 2012,just a min i link my topic or i paste here the same

this is about hindus Kalki: The Next Avatar of God and the End of Kali-yuga by Stephen Knapp (An excerpt from The Vedic Prophecies) The age of Kali-yuga is said to start from the year 3102 BC, after the disappearance of Lord Krishna. Lord Caitanya appeared 500 years ago, at which time the Golden Age within Kali-yuga is supposed to start and last another 10,000 years. As the Golden Age within of Kali-yuga comes to a close, the lower modes of material nature will become so strong that people will lose interest in spiritual topics. It is said that everyone will become godless. Whatever devotees, bhaktas, and sages are left on the planet will be so unique in character and peculiar compared with the rest of society that they will be ridiculed and hunted down in the cities for sport like animals. Thus, they will flee the cities to live underground in caves or high up in the mountains, or simply disengage from the earthly plane of existence. In this way, they will disappear from the face of the earth. That is the time when the dark influence of the age of Kali- yuga will become so dominant that its full influence will manifest without hindrance. Finally, after 432,000 years from the beginning of the age of Kali, Lord Kalki will appear as the twenty-second incarnation of God. This is very similar to what some people call the second coming of Christ.

i respect y0ur p0int of view...

I found out when the world ends anyway; the calendar on my phone finishes December 31st 9999, that's the end of the world because there won't be any calendar left. If I feel like it I'll buy a new phone just before then, but I won't promise.

Its not my point of view, i haven't given my point of view, Im the one asking the questions.

I guess some others that visit F&B dont wish to express their beliefs as they may well be wrong?

All wat is happenning does not mean the end is in 2012 but ........

2012 well it was quite sunny ,plus verry windy ,at times it was raining ,there hasnt been as much snow ,but the frosts have been bad...........and its all going to end on december 21