"Response to Qur'an 9:5"
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Musafir
2010/01/13 11:03
My one friend @ demon overlord quoted QUR'AN 9:5 but he forgot to quote QURAN 9:6 in this topic topic id: 2062830 :P “… Fight and slay the Mushrik Kafir wherever you find them …” (Al Qur’an 9:5) :) If you read the Qur’an, this verse exists but it is quoted out of context by Arun Shourie. The first few verses of Surah Tawbah before verse 5 speak about the peace treaty between the Muslims and Muskhriks (polytheists) of Makkah. This peace treaty was unilaterally broken by the Mushriks of Makkah. In verse no. 5 Allah (swt) gives them an ultimatum to put things straight in four months ’ time, or else face a declaration of war. It is for the battlefield that Allah says “fight and slay the Mushriks (i.e. the enemies from Makkah) wherever you find them and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war”. This verse is revealed and instructs the Muslims to fight in the battlefield and kill the enemy wherever you find them. But natural, any army general to boost up the morale of the soldiers and to encourage them will say “Don’t get scared, fight and kill the enemies, wherever you find them in the battlefield. Arun Shourie in his book ‘The World of Fatwas’ after quoting Surah Tawbah chapter 9 verse 5 jumps to verse 7. Any logical person will realize that verse 6 has the reply to his allegation. Surah Tawbah chapter 9 verse 6 says: :) “If any amongst the Mushriks (i.e. the enemies) ask thee for asylum, grant it to him so that he may hear the word of Allah and then escort him to where he can be secure ”. (Al Qur’an 9:6) :) Today the most merciful army general may tell his soldiers to let the enemy go, but Almighty Allah in the Qur ’an says if the enemy wants peace do not just let them go but escort them to a place of security. Which army general in today ’s day and age, or rather in the whole of recorded human history is ever known to have given such merciful instructions? Now will someone ask Mr. Arun Shourie Why did he deliberately not quote verse 6? :P
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Musafir
2010/01/13 11:13
I hope @ SATAN will answer my question :P I hope he understands now that Islam is religion of peace, go in deep to understand it. Dont just quote some incomplete verses. But anyways i have every answer of your incomplete verses you quote here :P
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-DeMoN_OvErLoRd-
2010/01/13 11:16
Did you not already post the same thing in the other topic? And second you copied and pasted again and again and you left the last part of the article ...hehehehe Mr Shourie LOL -lol-
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jaQui
2010/01/13 11:35
Again dis blablabla im the mr.genius -haha3-
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Musafir
2010/01/13 11:41
SATAN: Did you not already post the same thing in the other topic? And second you copied and pasted again and again and you left the last part of the article ...hehehehe Mr Shourie LOL -lol-
Not only at last but i described his name before also :P in 11 line please go back and read again. please answer my question instead of running. Your typing of link proves that you are not capable to reply or face the fact :) i just quoted Verses 6 to clear the misconception of verses 5. IF ANY OF MODERATOR SEES THIS TOPIC AS PROVOKING TOPIC, PLEASE TELL ME. But anyways this is not ANTI ISLAMIC TOPIC BUT DEFENSING ISLAMIC TOPIC. IS'NT IT??? :)
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-DeMoN_OvErLoRd-
2010/01/13 12:31
jacki: Again dis blablabla im the mr.genius -haha3-
Yeh he does it constantly -haha-
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-DeMoN_OvErLoRd-
2010/01/13 12:32
M_U_S_A_F_I_R: Not only at last but i described his name before also :P in 11 line please go back and read again. please answer my question instead of running. Your typing of link proves that you are not capable to reply or face the fact :) i just quoted Verses 6 to clear the misconception of verses 5. IF ANY OF MODERATOR SEES THIS TOPIC AS PROVOKING TOPIC, PLEASE TELL ME. But anyways this is not ANTI ISLAMIC TOPIC BUT DEFENSING ISLAMIC TOPIC. IS'NT IT??? :)
Reply to what? -boggle- I am not allowed to criticize remember..so dont provoke me it wont work....*laughing*
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Musafir
2010/01/13 12:51
SATAN: Reply to what? -boggle- I am not allowed to criticize remember..so dont provoke me it wont work....*laughing*
Reply to what -haha2- was your eyes close while reading my very first post. And i understand when people fails in answering they gives it name of provoke :P
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jaQui
2010/01/13 13:07
M_U_S_A_F_I_R: Reply to what -haha2- was your eyes close while reading my very first post. And i understand when people fails in answering they gives it name of provoke :P
i can read eye,s closed -headbang-
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_rOcK_
2010/01/14 18:13
SATAN: Did you not already post the same thing in the other topic? And second you copied and pasted again and again and you left the last part of the article ...hehehehe Mr Shourie LOL -lol-
you are just not reading and trying to understand what the topic makes wants to say.......
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haris
2010/01/14 18:20
jacki: i can read eye,s closed -headbang-
will you plz stop your freepostings in this forums.. /i've not seen a single worthy post of your's in this forums..:) plz take a note it's not a funtown or redlightzone;)
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Musafir
2010/01/15 14:03
haris: will you plz stop your freepostings in this forums.. /i've not seen a single worthy post of your's in this forums..:) plz take a note it's not a funtown or redlightzone;)
She will not.
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-DeMoN_OvErLoRd-
2010/01/15 14:13
M_U_S_A_F_I_R: She will not.
-offtopic-
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ZALAND
2010/01/15 14:58
haris: will you plz stop your freepostings in this forums.. /i've not seen a single worthy post of your's in this forums..:) plz take a note it's not a funtown or redlightzone;)
she want's plusses nd status bro!
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ZALAND
2010/01/15 15:04
M_U_S_A_F_I_R: I hope @ SATAN will answer my question :P I hope he understands now that Islam is religion of peace, go in deep to understand it. Dont just quote some incomplete verses. But anyways i have every answer of your incomplete verses you quote here :P
he is shaitan nd shaitan's never understands-smile-
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-DeMoN_OvErLoRd-
2010/01/15 15:48
Sirajkhan: he is shaitan nd shaitan's never understands-smile-
Oh he understands very well..its the religion of violence ..look around the world...you see it ...:) I have nothing more to add!
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Musafir
2010/01/15 16:14
SATAN: Oh he understands very well..its the religion of violence ..look around the world...you see it ...:) I have nothing more to add!
NOTHING MORE TO ADD :) Obviously you have no more misunderstandings to add here, when truth is infront of you -hehe-
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POWERBALL
2010/01/15 18:12
You can develop a healthy, robust community that lives right with God and enjoy its results only if you do the hard work of getting along with each other, treating each other with dignity and honor (James 3:18) (Msg)
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AL-JAWWAD_1
2010/01/15 19:40
M_U_S_A_F_I_R: My one friend @ demon overlord quoted QUR'AN 9:5 but he forgot to quote QURAN 9:6 in this topic topic id: 2062830 :P “… Fight and slay the Mushrik Kafir wherever you find them …” (Al Qur’an 9:5) :) If you read the Qur’an, this verse exists but it is quoted out of context by Arun Shourie. The first few verses of Surah Tawbah before verse 5 speak about the peace treaty between the Muslims and Muskhriks (polytheists) of Makkah. This peace treaty was unilaterally broken by the Mushriks of Makkah. In verse no. 5 Allah (swt) gives them an ultimatum to put things straight in four months ’ time, or else face a declaration of war. It is for the battlefield that Allah says “fight and slay the Mushriks (i.e. the enemies from Makkah) wherever you find them and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war”. This verse is revealed and instructs the Muslims to fight in the battlefield and kill the enemy wherever you find them. But natural, any army general to boost up the morale of the soldiers and to encourage them will say “Don’t get scared, fight and kill the enemies, wherever you find them in the battlefield. Arun Shourie in his book ‘The World of Fatwas’ after quoting Surah Tawbah chapter 9 verse 5 jumps to verse 7. Any logical person will realize that verse 6 has the reply to his allegation. Surah Tawbah chapter 9 verse 6 says: :) “If any amongst the Mushriks (i.e. the enemies) ask thee for asylum, grant it to him so that he may hear the word of Allah and then escort him to where he can be secure ”. (Al Qur’an 9:6) :) Today the most merciful army general may tell his soldiers to let the enemy go, but Almighty Allah in the Qur ’an says if the enemy wants peace do not just let them go but escort them to a place of security. Which army general in today ’s day and age, or rather in the whole of recorded human history is ever known to have given such merciful instructions? Now will someone ask Mr. Arun Shourie Why did he deliberately not quote verse 6? :P
The link is not opening, i guess they deleted your topic.
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AL-JAWWAD_1
2010/01/15 19:43
SATAN: Did you not already post the same thing in the other topic? And second you copied and pasted again and again and you left the last part of the article ...hehehehe Mr Shourie LOL -lol-
Not only in last part of Article :) he mentioned Arun Shouries name 3 times in his first post. Open your eyes SATAN.
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AL-JAWWAD_1
2010/01/15 19:47
SATAN: -offtopic-
off post confirmation post :)
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