Debate Competition by chocolate.boy 2016/01/08 19:57
Hello 2wappers,
Let’s have a healthy debate.
Topic : Is it justified to censor parts of a movie?
Rules
1. Dont free post.
2. Be patience and respect other members view.
3. You can quote other members, but don’t insult anyone.
Enjoy
Duration :9, 10, 11 January
prize : Winner – 500+ , Runner up – 300+
BEST OF LUCK
Hello 2wappers,
Let’s have a healthy debate.
Topic : Is it justified to censor parts of a movie?
Rules
1. Dont free post.
2. Be patience and respect other members view.
3. You can quote other members, but don’t insult anyone.
Enjoy
Duration :9, 10, 11 January
prize : Winner – 500+ , Runner up – 300+
BEST OF LUCK
EpIcInCoGnItO 2016/01/09 17:39
Why in the world would you censor stuff? Its very simple, movies are created by artists, why would they want to create movies if govt bodies just keep censoring things. I think in a case where the scenes are not suitable for all audiences it should be simple to rate the content for adult audiences rather than censoring things. And lets be honest to ourselves, if one is an adult one will possess the brains to decide the right and wrong so let us leave it to the audiences. Lets have free untouched cinema
Why in the world would you censor stuff? Its very simple, movies are created by artists, why would they want to create movies if govt bodies just keep censoring things. I think in a case where the scenes are not suitable for all audiences it should be simple to rate the content for adult audiences rather than censoring things. And lets be honest to ourselves, if one is an adult one will possess the brains to decide the right and wrong so let us leave it to the audiences. Lets have free untouched cinema
Samuel099 2016/01/10 06:28
Yeah it is , and my reason , In the past only professional workers have access to pay TV and use most of the internet unlike now internet has become popular to all, So urging the movie industry censor part of their movie is Good rather than rating it to adult or all kids only, I'm saying this because increase of technology made as do what we like so even if they rate the movie to adult only some kids will anonymously watch it on net also KIDs nowadays know more than we do.... My point is we must practice censorship cuz movies then music and social medias as well were destroying our society
I Do respect countries that practice censorship 🎷🎷🎷.
Yeah it is , and my reason , In the past only professional workers have access to pay TV and use most of the internet unlike now internet has become popular to all, So urging the movie industry censor part of their movie is Good rather than rating it to adult or all kids only, I'm saying this because increase of technology made as do what we like so even if they rate the movie to adult only some kids will anonymously watch it on net also KIDs nowadays know more than we do.... My point is we must practice censorship cuz movies then music and social medias as well were destroying our society
I Do respect countries that practice censorship 🎷🎷🎷.
EpIcInCoGnItO 2016/01/11 16:45
Music and social media destroying our society? how?
Music and social media destroying our society? how?
Quote: Samuel099: Yeah it is , and my reason , In the past only professional workers have access to pay TV and use most of the internet unlike now internet has become popular to all, So urging the movie industry censor part of their movie is Good rather than rating it to adult or all kids only, I'm saying this because increase of technology made as do what we like so even if they rate the movie to adult only some kids will anonymously watch it on net also KIDs nowadays know more than we do.... My point is we must practice censorship cuz movies then music and social medias as well were destroying our society
I Do respect countries that practice censorship 🎷🎷🎷.
I Do respect countries that practice censorship 🎷🎷🎷.
Samuel099 2016/01/12 00:42
Quote: EpIcInCoGnItO: Music and social media destroying our society? how?
some of the music videos were explicit and not good to watch, I can boldly say, genres such as RnB and Hip-hop as well as some of the porno pop stars wear naked and done stupid things on screen to attract viewers.... You can watch this video Anaconda by Nicki Minaj then Bitches love me by Lol Wayne etc and the use of cocaines and other hard drugs made people fall into that path also increase of social media create chaos, then false information then conflict etc because of the fraud or scam no one want to tell their private live to any cuz they might think they maybe fraud by them also too much uploading or sharing of nude pics create tension.... lol I got much to add but my hand is itching meee I hope you get what I mean 😂
EpIcInCoGnItO 2016/01/12 05:14
You mean after people watch videos of Anaconda or what you feel as explicit , they start using drugs and fraud and scam?
Did you read the topic? Let me repeat it for you. Is it justified to censor parts of a movie?
You mean after people watch videos of Anaconda or what you feel as explicit , they start using drugs and fraud and scam?
Did you read the topic? Let me repeat it for you. Is it justified to censor parts of a movie?
Quote: Samuel099: some of the music videos were explicit and not good to watch, I can boldly say, genres such as RnB and Hip-hop as well as some of the porno pop stars wear naked and done stupid things on screen to attract viewers.... You can watch this video Anaconda by Nicki Minaj then Bitches love me by Lol Wayne etc and the use of cocaines and other hard drugs made people fall into that path also increase of social media create chaos, then false information then conflict etc because of the fraud or scam no one want to tell their private live to any cuz they might think they maybe fraud by them also too much uploading or sharing of nude pics create tension.... lol I got much to add but my hand is itching meee I hope you get what I mean 😂
saahir 2016/01/12 05:33
Agreed.
Agreed.
Quote: EpIcInCoGnItO: Why in the world would you censor stuff? Its very simple, movies are created by artists, why would they want to create movies if govt bodies just keep censoring things. I think in a case where the scenes are not suitable for all audiences it should be simple to rate the content for adult audiences rather than censoring things. And lets be honest to ourselves, if one is an adult one will possess the brains to decide the right and wrong so let us leave it to the audiences. Lets have free untouched cinema
_SUPERBRAT_ 2016/01/12 07:13
censor board not in every country I think so, and we all know about Indian culture.
but day by day it is degrading due
to the many reason. One main
reason behind this is cinema also.
For entertainment, money and need
of scene some directors of the film
are not avoiding to show bad and
vulgar scenes.
Its duty of censor board to cut these
type of scene. And actually they are
not doing their work well, not
cutting these type of scenes
which adversely affect our society.
Now days very rare films are there
which we can watch with our family.
So censor board should filter the
film very fairly so that will not effect our society.
censor board not in every country I think so, and we all know about Indian culture.
but day by day it is degrading due
to the many reason. One main
reason behind this is cinema also.
For entertainment, money and need
of scene some directors of the film
are not avoiding to show bad and
vulgar scenes.
Its duty of censor board to cut these
type of scene. And actually they are
not doing their work well, not
cutting these type of scenes
which adversely affect our society.
Now days very rare films are there
which we can watch with our family.
So censor board should filter the
film very fairly so that will not effect our society.
NinthElement 2016/01/12 07:17
I think it can be justified to censor parts of a movie so that they will be suitable for a wider audience, not necessarily simply for a younger audience but for those adults also who may not enjoy certain graphic scences of sex or violence etc that are superfluous to the story, or who may be offended by swearing.
At the same time, I think the full version of the movie should be available for those who want to experience the unabridged work. In essence, censorship should be a choice that is offered to those who watch certain movies, not something that is imposed upon them.
I think it can be justified to censor parts of a movie so that they will be suitable for a wider audience, not necessarily simply for a younger audience but for those adults also who may not enjoy certain graphic scences of sex or violence etc that are superfluous to the story, or who may be offended by swearing.
At the same time, I think the full version of the movie should be available for those who want to experience the unabridged work. In essence, censorship should be a choice that is offered to those who watch certain movies, not something that is imposed upon them.
Samuel099 2016/01/12 08:11
Quote: EpIcInCoGnItO: You mean after people watch videos of Anaconda or what you feel as explicit , they start using drugs and fraud and scam?
Did you read the topic? Let me repeat it for you. Is it justified to censor parts of a movie?
I did read the topic but you asked how would music or social media destroyed us in quote, so I used that to defend or support my point 😂.Did you read the topic? Let me repeat it for you. Is it justified to censor parts of a movie?
EpIcInCoGnItO 2016/01/12 08:16
So you mean to say that if a script requires nudity ,it should be cut? Why would filmmakers make movies then. I accept cutting scenes only in case it created communal disharmony but censoring is different from cutting scenes. We are not even discussing on cutting but censoring scenes. I can tell you of many movies which got censored when there was not a need of it. I am talking about A rated movies which need nudity and adult content.
Basically Indian ideology is conservative at its roots, so I understand but the truth is that most of us do enjoy nudity, sex and bikinis. So if we are ready to watch all the porn behind closed doors why not let the film makers cast bikini girls. Censoring should be stopped. If you are an adult and you dont like it dont watch it but you cannot stop others from watching it.
To be make this clear the topic is on censoring, not deletion of scenes so I still think that the censor board has to go a long way, they dont censor scenes except the smoking scenes but they cut scenes which is even more worse.
I am against the idea of making movies just to show skin but I dont think that it should be censored. I appreciate good movies and stories but wont stop others from watching what they like.
So you mean to say that if a script requires nudity ,it should be cut? Why would filmmakers make movies then. I accept cutting scenes only in case it created communal disharmony but censoring is different from cutting scenes. We are not even discussing on cutting but censoring scenes. I can tell you of many movies which got censored when there was not a need of it. I am talking about A rated movies which need nudity and adult content.
Basically Indian ideology is conservative at its roots, so I understand but the truth is that most of us do enjoy nudity, sex and bikinis. So if we are ready to watch all the porn behind closed doors why not let the film makers cast bikini girls. Censoring should be stopped. If you are an adult and you dont like it dont watch it but you cannot stop others from watching it.
To be make this clear the topic is on censoring, not deletion of scenes so I still think that the censor board has to go a long way, they dont censor scenes except the smoking scenes but they cut scenes which is even more worse.
I am against the idea of making movies just to show skin but I dont think that it should be censored. I appreciate good movies and stories but wont stop others from watching what they like.
Quote: _MatriX_: censor board not in every country I think so, and we all know about Indian culture.
but day by day it is degrading due
to the many reason. One main
reason behind this is cinema also.
For entertainment, money and need
of scene some directors of the film
are not avoiding to show bad and
vulgar scenes.
Its duty of censor board to cut these
type of scene. And actually they are
not doing their work well, not
cutting these type of scenes
which adversely affect our society.
Now days very rare films are there
which we can watch with our family.
So censor board should filter the
film very fairly so that will not effect our society.
but day by day it is degrading due
to the many reason. One main
reason behind this is cinema also.
For entertainment, money and need
of scene some directors of the film
are not avoiding to show bad and
vulgar scenes.
Its duty of censor board to cut these
type of scene. And actually they are
not doing their work well, not
cutting these type of scenes
which adversely affect our society.
Now days very rare films are there
which we can watch with our family.
So censor board should filter the
film very fairly so that will not effect our society.
EpIcInCoGnItO 2016/01/12 08:17
So there you go, your first post itself doesnt relate to the topic.
I am still not sure though as to how do movies destroy society, please elaborate.
So there you go, your first post itself doesnt relate to the topic.
I am still not sure though as to how do movies destroy society, please elaborate.
Quote: Samuel099: I did read the topic but you asked how would music or social media destroyed us in quote, so I used that to defend or support my point 😂.
EpIcInCoGnItO 2016/01/12 08:18
I second the part that its important to not take away the choice from an adult as to what he wants to watch.
I second the part that its important to not take away the choice from an adult as to what he wants to watch.
Quote: Ragnorak: I think it can be justified to censor parts of a movie so that they will be suitable for a wider audience, not necessarily simply for a younger audience but for those adults also who may not enjoy certain graphic scences of sex or violence etc that are superfluous to the story, or who may be offended by swearing.
At the same time, I think the full version of the movie should be available for those who want to experience the unabridged work. In essence, censorship should be a choice that is offered to those who watch certain movies, not something that is imposed upon them.
At the same time, I think the full version of the movie should be available for those who want to experience the unabridged work. In essence, censorship should be a choice that is offered to those who watch certain movies, not something that is imposed upon them.
Samuel099 2016/01/12 08:20
I think this link can explain further on how nations must respect others on how they use the internet
http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/opinion/2016/01/09/china-changed-internet/78515058/
How their Censorship work, blocking porno and anything they found offensive or against the law also blocking Western Social media cuz they don't give source code, that the authority can track abusers and offenders of law 😂
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/01/china-shows-how-backdoors-lead-software-censorship?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C4633982972
I think this link can explain further on how nations must respect others on how they use the internet
http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/opinion/2016/01/09/china-changed-internet/78515058/
How their Censorship work, blocking porno and anything they found offensive or against the law also blocking Western Social media cuz they don't give source code, that the authority can track abusers and offenders of law 😂
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/01/china-shows-how-backdoors-lead-software-censorship?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C4633982972
EpIcInCoGnItO 2016/01/12 08:24
Why do you think the movies including these content? The answer is simple: Because whole of india loves to watch it.
We cant watch any films with family? You have to see the audience it is targetted to is it U, A or UA ?
I have seen a lot of movies that were meant to watch with family. Example: Piku,Barfi.
I will still insist that adultery or nudity is an important part of our lives, at times you cannot make a movies without it. For bold, true story telling you need it. For example- Masaan, do watch it. It has won many international awards.
Why do you think the movies including these content? The answer is simple: Because whole of india loves to watch it.
We cant watch any films with family? You have to see the audience it is targetted to is it U, A or UA ?
I have seen a lot of movies that were meant to watch with family. Example: Piku,Barfi.
I will still insist that adultery or nudity is an important part of our lives, at times you cannot make a movies without it. For bold, true story telling you need it. For example- Masaan, do watch it. It has won many international awards.
Quote: _MatriX_: censor board not in every country I think so, and we all know about Indian culture.
but day by day it is degrading due
to the many reason. One main
reason behind this is cinema also.
For entertainment, money and need
of scene some directors of the film
are not avoiding to show bad and
vulgar scenes.
Its duty of censor board to cut these
type of scene. And actually they are
not doing their work well, not
cutting these type of scenes
which adversely affect our society.
Now days very rare films are there
which we can watch with our family.
So censor board should filter the
film very fairly so that will not effect our society.
but day by day it is degrading due
to the many reason. One main
reason behind this is cinema also.
For entertainment, money and need
of scene some directors of the film
are not avoiding to show bad and
vulgar scenes.
Its duty of censor board to cut these
type of scene. And actually they are
not doing their work well, not
cutting these type of scenes
which adversely affect our society.
Now days very rare films are there
which we can watch with our family.
So censor board should filter the
film very fairly so that will not effect our society.
Samuel099 2016/01/12 08:24
Ah I'm tired of explaining 😂 Maybe Eeprom will help me
Quote: EpIcInCoGnItO: So there you go, your first post itself doesnt relate to the topic.
I am still not sure though as to how do movies destroy society, please elaborate.
If I may ask, will you allow your kids watch pornography or explicit movies like Crack the High voltage, Her etc. 😂
I am still not sure though as to how do movies destroy society, please elaborate.
Ah I'm tired of explaining 😂 Maybe Eeprom will help me
EpIcInCoGnItO 2016/01/12 08:25
Offtopic, cyber laws and internet censorship is not being disussed here.
Offtopic, cyber laws and internet censorship is not being disussed here.
Quote: Samuel099: I think this link can explain further on how nations must respect others on how they use the internet 😂. I love China
http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/opinion/2016/01/09/china-changed-internet/78515058/
http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/opinion/2016/01/09/china-changed-internet/78515058/
EpIcInCoGnItO 2016/01/12 08:27
Well those movies are rated universal? So of course I will stop my children, but will that mean the whole world cant watch those movies because it affects children? Ah and btw we are not even talking of porn here, it can no way be considered a part of mainstream media. So you comparison is vague.
Why do you think audience rating is made?
Well those movies are rated universal? So of course I will stop my children, but will that mean the whole world cant watch those movies because it affects children? Ah and btw we are not even talking of porn here, it can no way be considered a part of mainstream media. So you comparison is vague.
Why do you think audience rating is made?
Quote: Samuel099: If I may ask, will you allow your kids watch pornography or explicit movies like Crack the High voltage, Her etc. 😂
Ah I'm tired of explaining 😂 Maybe Eeprom will help me
Ah I'm tired of explaining 😂 Maybe Eeprom will help me
_SUPERBRAT_ 2016/01/12 08:30
is necessary, as the movie maker
puts everything in the movie to
make it interesting, like vulgar
scene, abusing language etc. These
types of things are highly
responsible in degrading the culture
of our society. So the censor board
should always take a step in
censoring these types of things from
the movie.
Quote: EpIcInCoGnItO: So you mean to say that if a script requires nudity ,it should be cut? Why would filmmakers make movies then. I accept cutting scenes only in case it created communal disharmony but censoring is different from cutting scenes. We are not even discussing on cutting but censoring scenes. I can tell you of many movies which got censored when there was not a need of it. I am talking about A rated movies which need nudity and adult content.
Basically Indian ideology is conservative at its roots, so I understand but the truth is that most of us do enjoy nudity, sex and bikinis. So if we are ready to watch all the porn behind closed doors why not let the film makers cast bikini girls. Censoring should be stopped. If you are an adult and you dont like it dont watch it but you cannot stop others from watching it.
To be make this clear the topic is on censoring, not deletion of scenes so I still think that the censor board has to go a long way, they dont censor scenes except the smoking scenes but they cut scenes which is even more worse.
I am against the idea of making movies just to show skin but I dont think that it should be censored. I appreciate good movies and stories but wont stop others from watching what they like.
I'm also talking about censoring, film makers adding hot scene for making money, and they don't care about who watching and who don't,they just want make money, but we don't like that scenes our kids watching, its must be censored, according to me censorship in movie
Basically Indian ideology is conservative at its roots, so I understand but the truth is that most of us do enjoy nudity, sex and bikinis. So if we are ready to watch all the porn behind closed doors why not let the film makers cast bikini girls. Censoring should be stopped. If you are an adult and you dont like it dont watch it but you cannot stop others from watching it.
To be make this clear the topic is on censoring, not deletion of scenes so I still think that the censor board has to go a long way, they dont censor scenes except the smoking scenes but they cut scenes which is even more worse.
I am against the idea of making movies just to show skin but I dont think that it should be censored. I appreciate good movies and stories but wont stop others from watching what they like.
is necessary, as the movie maker
puts everything in the movie to
make it interesting, like vulgar
scene, abusing language etc. These
types of things are highly
responsible in degrading the culture
of our society. So the censor board
should always take a step in
censoring these types of things from
the movie.
Samuel099 2016/01/12 08:31
Quote: EpIcInCoGnItO: I second the part that its important to not take away the choice from an adult as to what he wants to watch.
I'm sorry countries like China, Russia, North Korea, UAE, saudi Arabia etc among others respect all citizen so they'll not open part of the content to others and censored to those who don't know anything about internet, so they do banned it or censored the content so that it may be inaccessible to all even the government or the president himself. 😂
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