Holy wars, a stare in history by dad_ash 2011/08/20 02:46
Throughout history religion has been used as an excuse, or driving force, for some of the worst atrocities imaginable. From pre-history to modern history, religion is, for many people, just an excuse to kill other people. I am posting here about the holywars, this list highlights eight of the worst atrocities (but not necessarily the top
Throughout history religion has been used as an excuse, or driving force, for some of the worst atrocities imaginable. From pre-history to modern history, religion is, for many people, just an excuse to kill other people. I am posting here about the holywars, this list highlights eight of the worst atrocities (but not necessarily the top
dad_ash 2011/08/20 02:48
Human sacrifices were still occurring in Buddhist, Burma in the 1850s. When the capital was moved to Mandalay, 56 spotless men were buried beneath the new city walls to sanctify and protect the city. When two of the burial spots were later found empty, royal astrologers decreed that 500 men, women, boys, and girls must be killed and buried at once, or the capital must be abandoned. About 100 were actually buried before British governors stopped the ceremonies.
Human sacrifices were still occurring in Buddhist, Burma in the 1850s. When the capital was moved to Mandalay, 56 spotless men were buried beneath the new city walls to sanctify and protect the city. When two of the burial spots were later found empty, royal astrologers decreed that 500 men, women, boys, and girls must be killed and buried at once, or the capital must be abandoned. About 100 were actually buried before British governors stopped the ceremonies.
dad_ash 2011/08/20 02:50
Members of lndias Thuggee sect strangled people as sacrifices to appease the blood thirsty goddess Kali, a practice beginning in the 1500s. The number of victims has been estimated to be as high as 2 million. Thugs were claiming about 20,000 lives a year in the 1800s until British rulers stamped them out. At a trial in 1840, one Thug was accused of killing 931 people.
Members of lndias Thuggee sect strangled people as sacrifices to appease the blood thirsty goddess Kali, a practice beginning in the 1500s. The number of victims has been estimated to be as high as 2 million. Thugs were claiming about 20,000 lives a year in the 1800s until British rulers stamped them out. At a trial in 1840, one Thug was accused of killing 931 people.
dad_ash 2011/08/20 02:53
The Mountain Meadows massacre was a mass killing of the Fancher-Baker wagon train at Mountain Meadows in Utah Territory on September 11, 1857, by a group of Mormons and Paiute Indians. The Arkansas emigrants were traveling to California shortly before Utah War started. Mormons throughout the Utah Territory had been mustered to fight the invading United States Army, which they believed was intended to destroy them as a people. Initially intending to orchestrate an Indian massacre, two men with leadership roles in local military, church and government organizations, Isaac C. Haight and John D. Lee, conspired for Lee to lead militiamen disguised as Native Americans along with a contingent of Paiute tribesmen in an attack.
The emigrants fought back and a siege ensued. Intending to leave no witnesses of Mormon complicity in the siege and avoid reprisals complicating the Utah War, militiamen induced the emigrants to surrender and give up their weapons. After escorting the emigrants out of their fortification, the militiamen and their tribesmen auxiliaries executed approximately 120 men, women and children.
The Mountain Meadows massacre was a mass killing of the Fancher-Baker wagon train at Mountain Meadows in Utah Territory on September 11, 1857, by a group of Mormons and Paiute Indians. The Arkansas emigrants were traveling to California shortly before Utah War started. Mormons throughout the Utah Territory had been mustered to fight the invading United States Army, which they believed was intended to destroy them as a people. Initially intending to orchestrate an Indian massacre, two men with leadership roles in local military, church and government organizations, Isaac C. Haight and John D. Lee, conspired for Lee to lead militiamen disguised as Native Americans along with a contingent of Paiute tribesmen in an attack.
The emigrants fought back and a siege ensued. Intending to leave no witnesses of Mormon complicity in the siege and avoid reprisals complicating the Utah War, militiamen induced the emigrants to surrender and give up their weapons. After escorting the emigrants out of their fortification, the militiamen and their tribesmen auxiliaries executed approximately 120 men, women and children.
dad_ash 2011/08/20 02:56
The Medieval Inquisition is a series of Inquisitions (Roman Catholic Church bodies charged with suppressing heresy) from around 1184, including the Episcopal Inquisition (1184-1230s) and later the Papal Inquisition (1230s). It was in response to large popular movements throughout Europe considered apostate or heretical to Christianity, in particular Catharism and Waldensians in southern France and northern Italy. These were the first inquisition movements of many that would follow.
Torture was used after 1252. On May 15, Pope Innocent IV issued a papal bull entitled Ad exstirpanda, which authorized the use of torture by inquisitors. The Inquisitors were forbidden to use methods that resulted in bloodshed, mutilation or death. One of the more common forms of medieval inquisition torture was known as strappado. The hands were bound behind the back with a rope, and the accused was suspended this way, dislocating the joints painfully in both arms. Weights could be added to the legs dislocating those joints as well.
The organization is still active today under the name of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Prior to becoming Pope Benedict XVI, Cardinal Ratzinger was the head of the congregation.
The Medieval Inquisition is a series of Inquisitions (Roman Catholic Church bodies charged with suppressing heresy) from around 1184, including the Episcopal Inquisition (1184-1230s) and later the Papal Inquisition (1230s). It was in response to large popular movements throughout Europe considered apostate or heretical to Christianity, in particular Catharism and Waldensians in southern France and northern Italy. These were the first inquisition movements of many that would follow.
Torture was used after 1252. On May 15, Pope Innocent IV issued a papal bull entitled Ad exstirpanda, which authorized the use of torture by inquisitors. The Inquisitors were forbidden to use methods that resulted in bloodshed, mutilation or death. One of the more common forms of medieval inquisition torture was known as strappado. The hands were bound behind the back with a rope, and the accused was suspended this way, dislocating the joints painfully in both arms. Weights could be added to the legs dislocating those joints as well.
The organization is still active today under the name of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Prior to becoming Pope Benedict XVI, Cardinal Ratzinger was the head of the congregation.
dad_ash 2011/08/20 02:57
When Puritans settled in Massachusetts in the 1600s, they created a religious police state where doctrinal deviation could lead to flogging, pillorying, hanging, cutting off ears, or boring through the tongue with a hot iron. Preaching Quaker beliefs was a capital offense.Four stubborn Quakers defied this law and were hanged. In the 1690s fear of witches seized the colony. Twenty alleged witches were killed and 150 others imprisoned.
When Puritans settled in Massachusetts in the 1600s, they created a religious police state where doctrinal deviation could lead to flogging, pillorying, hanging, cutting off ears, or boring through the tongue with a hot iron. Preaching Quaker beliefs was a capital offense.Four stubborn Quakers defied this law and were hanged. In the 1690s fear of witches seized the colony. Twenty alleged witches were killed and 150 others imprisoned.
dad_ash 2011/08/20 03:00
Christians were first, and horribly, targeted for persecution as a group by the emperor Nero in 64 AD. A colossal fire broke out at Rome, and destroyed much of the city. Rumors abounded that Nero himself was responsible. To divert attention from the rumors, Nero ordered that Christians should be rounded up and killed. Some were torn apart by dogs,others burnt alive as human torches. Over the next hundred years or so, Christians were sporadically persecuted. Then in the mid-third century, emperors initiated even more intensive persecutions. This, The Great Persecution, is considered the largest. Beginning with a series of four edicts banning Christian practices and ordering the imprisonment of Christian clergy, the persecution intensified until all Christians in the empire were commanded to sacrifice to the gods or face immediate execution. This persecution was to be the last, as Constantine I soon came into power and in 313 legalized Christianity.
Christians were first, and horribly, targeted for persecution as a group by the emperor Nero in 64 AD. A colossal fire broke out at Rome, and destroyed much of the city. Rumors abounded that Nero himself was responsible. To divert attention from the rumors, Nero ordered that Christians should be rounded up and killed. Some were torn apart by dogs,others burnt alive as human torches. Over the next hundred years or so, Christians were sporadically persecuted. Then in the mid-third century, emperors initiated even more intensive persecutions. This, The Great Persecution, is considered the largest. Beginning with a series of four edicts banning Christian practices and ordering the imprisonment of Christian clergy, the persecution intensified until all Christians in the empire were commanded to sacrifice to the gods or face immediate execution. This persecution was to be the last, as Constantine I soon came into power and in 313 legalized Christianity.
dad_ash 2011/08/20 03:02
The Aztecs began their elaborate theocracy in the 1300s and brought human sacrifice to a golden era. About 20,000 people were killed yearly to appease gods ,especially the sun god, who needed daily nourishment of blood. Hearts of sacrifice victims were cut out, and some bodies were eaten ceremoniously. Other victims were drowned, beheaded, burned or dropped from heights. In a rite to therain god, shrieking children were killed at several sites so that their tears might induce rain. In a rite to the maize goddess, a virgin danced for 24 hours, then was killed and skinned; her skin was worn by a priest in further dancing. One account says that at King Ahuitzotls coronation, 80,000 prisoners were butchered to please the gods.
The Aztecs began their elaborate theocracy in the 1300s and brought human sacrifice to a golden era. About 20,000 people were killed yearly to appease gods ,especially the sun god, who needed daily nourishment of blood. Hearts of sacrifice victims were cut out, and some bodies were eaten ceremoniously. Other victims were drowned, beheaded, burned or dropped from heights. In a rite to therain god, shrieking children were killed at several sites so that their tears might induce rain. In a rite to the maize goddess, a virgin danced for 24 hours, then was killed and skinned; her skin was worn by a priest in further dancing. One account says that at King Ahuitzotls coronation, 80,000 prisoners were butchered to please the gods.
dad_ash 2011/08/20 03:12
I have called them holy wars because if a single human which has been Killed on the god,s name, to me it is a war. War against human being and blood thristy god/s...
I have called them holy wars because if a single human which has been Killed on the god,s name, to me it is a war. War against human being and blood thristy god/s...
Manal 2011/08/20 05:59
Quote: GrUnGePrInCe: Its happened in most parts of world and fight for religion wont end.
lets transfer to saturn or jupiter
Someone 2011/08/20 06:04
Quote: As_Ash: I have called them holy wars because if a single human which has been Killed on the god,s name, to me it is a war. War against human being and blood thristy god/s...
Naming killing of innocent peoples "Holy War" is wrong because no religion justify killings of innocent peoples and no GOD ask to kill innocents on name of religion. It is peoples who is bad... Not any Religion - GOD.
Rajjar 2011/08/20 06:09
Quote: GrUnGePrInCe: fight for religion wont end.
no one likes to be told what they believe is wrong
dad_ash 2011/08/20 08:27
Quote: Vipul: Naming killing of innocent peoples"Holy War"is wrong because no religion justify killings of innocent peoples and no GOD ask to kill innocents on name of religion. It is peoples who is bad... Not any Religion - GOD.
No way to disagree with you but the facts crying aloud that the people does the killings people on the name of god/s, and we can't deny that.. . There is book 'Tallash' written by renoun writter 'Mumtaz Mufti sahb' it is a must read book. Im sure its hindi version will be available in india because he got the prestigious 'Padma Bhushan' award from the indian govt though he wasn't indian... He has drawn scatches of popular god in this book , im sure you would enjoy.
Spoon 2011/08/20 11:35
Quote: As_Ash: No way to disagree with you but the facts crying aloud that the people does the killings people on the name of god/s, and we can't deny that.. . There is book 'Tallash' written by renoun writter 'Mumtaz Mufti sahb' it is a must read book. Im sure its hindi version will be available in india because he got the prestigious 'Padma Bhushan' award from the indian govt though he wasn't indian... He has drawn scatches of popular god in this book , im sure you would enjoy.
ur right ppl no matter wot kill in the name of religion and its wrong on so many levels its not a defence either but they seem to think it is
dad_ash 2011/08/20 12:17
Thank you. . . I think we need either a new religion or we have to kill some way all the religious misleaders to purify earth, perhapes their blood will be more useful than of those who they killed on the god,s name.
Quote: Spoon: ur right ppl no matter wot kill in the name of religion and its wrong on so many levels its not a defence either but they seem to think it is
Thank you. . . I think we need either a new religion or we have to kill some way all the religious misleaders to purify earth, perhapes their blood will be more useful than of those who they killed on the god,s name.
Lelsi 2011/08/21 01:01
Murder of religous extremist would not solve a thing, because wrong belief is a thing which need to be changed. And who and how can prove someone that his belief is wrong? We,human beings tend to think that we're the smartest living beings on earth, but yet we are the most primitive creatures.
Btw,thanks for the lecture.
Quote: As_Ash:
Thank you. . . I think we need either a new religion or we have to kill some way all the religious misleaders to purify earth, perhapes their blood will be more useful than of those who they killed on the god,s name.
that's impossible, because nothing can change human's nature.
Thank you. . . I think we need either a new religion or we have to kill some way all the religious misleaders to purify earth, perhapes their blood will be more useful than of those who they killed on the god,s name.
Murder of religous extremist would not solve a thing, because wrong belief is a thing which need to be changed. And who and how can prove someone that his belief is wrong? We,human beings tend to think that we're the smartest living beings on earth, but yet we are the most primitive creatures.
Btw,thanks for the lecture.
TheMouse 2011/08/21 01:28
Quote: Amela: that's impossible, because nothing can change human's nature.
Murder of religous extremist would not solve a thing, because wrong belief is a thing which need to be changed. And who and how can prove someone that his belief is wrong? We,human beings tend to think that we're the smartest living beings on earth, but yet we are the most primitive creatures.
Btw,thanks for the lecture.
lol, I tend to think humans are the most stupid living beings on Earth; the 'holy' wars are just the symptom of fixed psychotic ideas from ignorance they call their religion festering in their brains. Looking at 'holy' wars, it's amazing how much energy humans invest in not-thinking. However, I'd love to collect all humans who go to fight in 'holy' wars and use them in lab tests, with a view of discovering new treatments for illnesses in mice - thus, they could be put to some use at least instead of them being allowed to be a pure waste of space. Needless to say, my mice agree with this view.
Murder of religous extremist would not solve a thing, because wrong belief is a thing which need to be changed. And who and how can prove someone that his belief is wrong? We,human beings tend to think that we're the smartest living beings on earth, but yet we are the most primitive creatures.
Btw,thanks for the lecture.
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