A German's View on Islam by Spoon 2011/04/18 11:44
This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is said to be Dr.... Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.
This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is said to be Dr.... Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.
haris 2011/04/25 05:35
so do u mean to say even christians may be called fanatics? Coz bible speaks against homosexuality..
Also many othr religious scriptures..
So basically, wat we get from here is that only athiests are not fanatics lol
Quote: outlaw: If that's what you believe then you can't blaim anyone for equating you to a fanatic.
no no.. Just call me a Muslim.
so do u mean to say even christians may be called fanatics? Coz bible speaks against homosexuality..
Also many othr religious scriptures..
So basically, wat we get from here is that only athiests are not fanatics lol
haris 2011/04/25 05:40
BBC facts? CNN facts?
We dont believe in your biased n one sided historians or even call the journalists.
Come up wid facts next time.
Just dont say facts facts facts lol
Quote: Spoon: the facts are as written in history which this was about for u all to see but i see u still dnt see facts again when they put in front of u.
which facts are u talkin about??
BBC facts? CNN facts?
We dont believe in your biased n one sided historians or even call the journalists.
Come up wid facts next time.
Just dont say facts facts facts lol
haris 2011/04/25 05:44
Fundamentalism?
The person who is extremely good at fundamentals?
Isnt it a good thing?
What's wrong if a person is extremely good at Islamic fundamentals?
Quote: -DeMoN_OvErLoRd-:
Extremism is any ideology or political act far outside the perceived political center of a society; or otherwise claimed to violate common moral standards.[citation needed] In democratic societies, individuals or groups that advocate the replacement of democracy with a authoritarian regime are usually branded extremists, in authoritarian societies the opposite applies.
The term is invariably, or almost invariably, used pejoratively. Extremism is usually contrasted with moderation, and extremists with moderates. (For example, in contemporary discussions in Western countries of Islam, or of Islamic political movements, it is common for there to be a heavy stress on the distinction between extremist and moderate Muslims. It is also not uncommon to necessarily define distinctions regarding extremist Christians as opposed to moderate Christians, as in countries such as the United States).
Political agendas perceived as extremist often include those from the far left or far right as well as fundamentalism or, as a more general term, fanaticism.
wikipedia is back? Lol.
Extremism is any ideology or political act far outside the perceived political center of a society; or otherwise claimed to violate common moral standards.[citation needed] In democratic societies, individuals or groups that advocate the replacement of democracy with a authoritarian regime are usually branded extremists, in authoritarian societies the opposite applies.
The term is invariably, or almost invariably, used pejoratively. Extremism is usually contrasted with moderation, and extremists with moderates. (For example, in contemporary discussions in Western countries of Islam, or of Islamic political movements, it is common for there to be a heavy stress on the distinction between extremist and moderate Muslims. It is also not uncommon to necessarily define distinctions regarding extremist Christians as opposed to moderate Christians, as in countries such as the United States).
Political agendas perceived as extremist often include those from the far left or far right as well as fundamentalism or, as a more general term, fanaticism.
Fundamentalism?
The person who is extremely good at fundamentals?
Isnt it a good thing?
What's wrong if a person is extremely good at Islamic fundamentals?
Spoon 2011/04/25 07:04
Quote: haris: which facts are u talkin about??
BBC facts? CNN facts?
We dont believe in your biased n one sided historians or even call the journalists.
Come up wid facts next time.
Just dont say facts facts facts lol
its not bias read it again it shows facts in history that in many countries and religions where it has happened its not pointing to just 1 thats where u r blinded and bias not me
BBC facts? CNN facts?
We dont believe in your biased n one sided historians or even call the journalists.
Come up wid facts next time.
Just dont say facts facts facts lol
Spoon 2011/04/25 07:13
ok this just for haris and any1 else that thinks this thread is bias just so they have the right meaning of wot bias is
To incline to one side; to give a particular direction to; to influence; to prejudice; to prepossess.
A leaning of the mind; propensity or prepossession toward an object or view, not leaving the mind indifferent; bent; inclination.Inclined to one side
ok this just for haris and any1 else that thinks this thread is bias just so they have the right meaning of wot bias is
To incline to one side; to give a particular direction to; to influence; to prejudice; to prepossess.
A leaning of the mind; propensity or prepossession toward an object or view, not leaving the mind indifferent; bent; inclination.Inclined to one side
TheMouse 2011/04/26 02:47
Quote: haris: no no.. Just call me a Muslim.
so do u mean to say even christians may be called fanatics? Coz bible speaks against homosexuality..
Also many othr religious scriptures..
So basically, wat we get from here is that only athiests are not fanatics lol
Yes, there are extremist Christians, e.g. the creationists, there are even such unbelievable examples as 'extremist Buddhists' - I know of a case where a small Buddhist community left a flea infested cat to die because those people's extreme interpretation of their religion didn't allow them to take action in form of killing the fleas. - U are, I'd say, wrong in that last point - of course, there can also be an extremist atheist. Do U confuse 'atheism' with 'agnosticism'?
so do u mean to say even christians may be called fanatics? Coz bible speaks against homosexuality..
Also many othr religious scriptures..
So basically, wat we get from here is that only athiests are not fanatics lol
DotmonKing 2011/04/26 08:06
Being friends with everyone is key to me. Dont hate or disrespect a man cos of his beliefs.
As for Kumz who thinks some of us are protecting tools, am not currently with tools, am i? If tools were a do or die affair for me, i wont in taken 3 breaks in my 6 months as mod. But i didnt take break so as to return to you people. I took break so i can rest. But man also cant continue saying the same thing with the same people. A year ago, samething. 2 years ago samething. As if we're talkin to a block of wall. Man should be watchfull so it doesnt drive us to madness. We all must have that in mind. I seek new challenge, then i'l return much later.
Bye for now, goodluck to us all.
Being friends with everyone is key to me. Dont hate or disrespect a man cos of his beliefs.
As for Kumz who thinks some of us are protecting tools, am not currently with tools, am i? If tools were a do or die affair for me, i wont in taken 3 breaks in my 6 months as mod. But i didnt take break so as to return to you people. I took break so i can rest. But man also cant continue saying the same thing with the same people. A year ago, samething. 2 years ago samething. As if we're talkin to a block of wall. Man should be watchfull so it doesnt drive us to madness. We all must have that in mind. I seek new challenge, then i'l return much later.
Bye for now, goodluck to us all.
ROCKY13 2011/04/26 09:21
A survey recently conducted by the University of Muenster has found that Germans are considerably more negative in their views about Muslims and Jews than their European neighbors.
A survey recently conducted by the University of Muenster has found that Germans are considerably more negative in their views about Muslims and Jews than their European neighbors.
ROCKY13 2011/04/26 09:22
Germans view Islam as ‘intolerant'
The representative survey, which polled 1,000 people in each of the four countries mentioned, found that fewer than five percent of Germans thought Islam was a tolerant religion, compared to roughly 20 percent for the Danes, Dutch and French.
Women gathered at a mosque in CologneBildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Germans are critical of women's rights in Islam
While 50 percent of Danes and two-thirds of the French and Dutch respondents approved of the building of mosques, fewer than 30 percent of Germans said they did.
In Denmark, France and the Netherlands, a clear majority of respondents viewed Muslims positively.
In Germany, however, only 34 percent of those surveyed in the west of the country and 26 percent in eastern Germany had a positive view of Muslims.
When asked what they associated with Islam, more than 80 percent said discrimination of women, 60 percent said fanaticism, and only eight percent of West Germans and five percent of East Germans said that Islam was peaceful.
Germans view Islam as ‘intolerant'
The representative survey, which polled 1,000 people in each of the four countries mentioned, found that fewer than five percent of Germans thought Islam was a tolerant religion, compared to roughly 20 percent for the Danes, Dutch and French.
Women gathered at a mosque in CologneBildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Germans are critical of women's rights in Islam
While 50 percent of Danes and two-thirds of the French and Dutch respondents approved of the building of mosques, fewer than 30 percent of Germans said they did.
In Denmark, France and the Netherlands, a clear majority of respondents viewed Muslims positively.
In Germany, however, only 34 percent of those surveyed in the west of the country and 26 percent in eastern Germany had a positive view of Muslims.
When asked what they associated with Islam, more than 80 percent said discrimination of women, 60 percent said fanaticism, and only eight percent of West Germans and five percent of East Germans said that Islam was peaceful.
Spoon 2011/04/26 09:29
Quote: ROCKY13: Germans view Islam as ‘intolerant'
The representative survey, which polled 1,000 people in each of the four countries mentioned, found that fewer than five percent of Germans thought Islam was a tolerant religion, compared to roughly 20 percent for the Danes, Dutch and French.
Women gathered at a mosque in CologneBildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Germans are critical of women's rights in Islam
While 50 percent of Danes and two-thirds of the French and Dutch respondents approved of the building of mosques, fewer than 30 percent of Germans said they did.
In Denmark, France and the Netherlands, a clear majority of respondents viewed Muslims positively.
In Germany, however, only 34 percent of those surveyed in the west of the country and 26 percent in eastern Germany had a positive view of Muslims.
When asked what they associated with Islam, more than 80 percent said discrimination of women, 60 percent said fanaticism, and only eight percent of West Germans and five percent of East Germans said that Islam was peaceful.
and thats wot we have been saying its not the religion but aspects of it most dont like or can accept and im glad uve mentioned that france is tolerant considering they have banned muslim women wearing burkas in public it is now law that they can b charged and fined for doing so. they see it as a threat and security risk for there country
The representative survey, which polled 1,000 people in each of the four countries mentioned, found that fewer than five percent of Germans thought Islam was a tolerant religion, compared to roughly 20 percent for the Danes, Dutch and French.
Women gathered at a mosque in CologneBildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Germans are critical of women's rights in Islam
While 50 percent of Danes and two-thirds of the French and Dutch respondents approved of the building of mosques, fewer than 30 percent of Germans said they did.
In Denmark, France and the Netherlands, a clear majority of respondents viewed Muslims positively.
In Germany, however, only 34 percent of those surveyed in the west of the country and 26 percent in eastern Germany had a positive view of Muslims.
When asked what they associated with Islam, more than 80 percent said discrimination of women, 60 percent said fanaticism, and only eight percent of West Germans and five percent of East Germans said that Islam was peaceful.
-DeMoN_OvErLoRd- 2011/04/26 09:54
Quote: TheMouse: ... Please, discuss the matter of the topic here, not the members taking part in the discussion. Lol. Another lengthy off topic post I may have to edit, lol. 
Im sorry If my reply was off topic too but i was just replying to what his off topic questions were!
TheMouse 2011/04/26 10:04
Quote: ROCKY13: Germans view Islam as ‘intolerant'
The representative survey, which polled 1,000 people in each of the four countries mentioned, found that fewer than five percent of Germans thought Islam was a tolerant religion, compared to roughly 20 percent for the Danes, Dutch and French.
Women gathered at a mosque in CologneBildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Germans are critical of women's rights in Islam
While 50 percent of Danes and two-thirds of the French and Dutch respondents approved of the building of mosques, fewer than 30 percent of Germans said they did.
In Denmark, France and the Netherlands, a clear majority of respondents viewed Muslims positively.
In Germany, however, only 34 percent of those surveyed in the west of the country and 26 percent in eastern Germany had a positive view of Muslims.
When asked what they associated with Islam, more than 80 percent said discrimination of women, 60 percent said fanaticism, and only eight percent of West Germans and five percent of East Germans said that Islam was peaceful.
Are U surprised? They see what's going on in the world, and it reminds them too much of what was going on in their country in the last century.
The representative survey, which polled 1,000 people in each of the four countries mentioned, found that fewer than five percent of Germans thought Islam was a tolerant religion, compared to roughly 20 percent for the Danes, Dutch and French.
Women gathered at a mosque in CologneBildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Germans are critical of women's rights in Islam
While 50 percent of Danes and two-thirds of the French and Dutch respondents approved of the building of mosques, fewer than 30 percent of Germans said they did.
In Denmark, France and the Netherlands, a clear majority of respondents viewed Muslims positively.
In Germany, however, only 34 percent of those surveyed in the west of the country and 26 percent in eastern Germany had a positive view of Muslims.
When asked what they associated with Islam, more than 80 percent said discrimination of women, 60 percent said fanaticism, and only eight percent of West Germans and five percent of East Germans said that Islam was peaceful.
TheMouse 2011/04/26 10:08
Quote: Spoon: and thats wot we have been saying its not the religion but aspects of it most dont like or can accept and im glad uve mentioned that france is tolerant considering they have banned muslim women wearing burkas in public it is now law that they can b charged and fined for doing so. they see it as a threat and security risk for there country
Of course it is a security risk, and I'm surprised that it is not yet illegal to wear them in every western country.
Spoon 2011/04/26 10:13
Quote: TheMouse: Of course it is a security risk, and I'm surprised that it is not yet illegal to wear them in every western country.
they say we racist and cause roits if its even mentioned and say its against there religious rights, today over here it was announced at 1 school in new south wales they not allowed to play our national anthem because its goes against there beliefs and we cant do anything to stop them because the government r to scared it will look bad to every1 else to stand up and say hold on this is our country
TheMouse 2011/04/26 10:27
Quote: Spoon: they say we racist and cause roits if its even mentioned and say its against there religious rights, today over here it was announced at 1 school in new south wales they not allowed to play our national anthem because its goes against there beliefs and we cant do anything to stop them because the government r to scared it will look bad to every1 else to stand up and say hold on this is our country
what has the national anthem got to do with beliefs? (apart from that it's about the country which the national anthem is about, lol?)
TheMouse 2011/04/26 10:29
Quote: -DeMoN_OvErLoRd-: Im sorry If my reply was off topic too but i was just replying to what his off topic questions were!
i didn't notice U were off topic, well, I tell U I'll be watching U then!
Spoon 2011/04/26 10:32
Quote: TheMouse: what has the national anthem got to do with beliefs? (apart from that it's about the country which the national anthem is about, lol?)
lol well that it and they became australian citizans so it shld b now part of there culture as well as islam been there religion seems they can disrespect us in our country but we not allowed to do to them as they do to us
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