SkY2k 2015/10/05 12:25
No Comments, don't want people to think I'm racist and so on...nice topic tho...karma for you
No Comments, don't want people to think I'm racist and so on...nice topic tho...karma for you
Kayli 2015/10/05 14:08
Quote: zugzwang: the whole earth is meant for all. n evry ppl shud hv right to live anywhre. the boundries wre made by we selfish n insecure ppl. THY never difernciates
what if the immigrants bring in drugs and give it 2 the youth ? And 1 of those kids are ur brother or sister, many kids dnt know they having drugs. And within a week they are addicted to drugs.
zugzwang 2015/10/05 14:16
Quote: Kayli: what if the immigrants bring in drugs and give it 2 the youth ? And 1 of those kids are ur brother or sister, many kids dnt know they having drugs. And within a week they are addicted to drugs.
thatz y i wrote we felt insecure..if hd we not made these boundries n all hd ethics thn it wud be betr to live anywhre
NinthElement 2015/10/05 20:27
I judge people by the content of their character rather than where they come from. I believe that one day the whole world will be one great nation, with a single world government and kids in school will learn in history class about how we used to have borders and how strange it must have been.
I judge people by the content of their character rather than where they come from. I believe that one day the whole world will be one great nation, with a single world government and kids in school will learn in history class about how we used to have borders and how strange it must have been.
detrimentum 2015/10/05 23:59
you cant have issues with immigrants because of drugs. How odd. Citizens sell drugs. Citizens smuggle drugs to other countries.
Earth was never intended to be free for all. Borders have been part of our history since the beginning of time. Without borders nothing will seperate us. Seperation makes us different. Cultures. Languages. The way we think. Teaching. Learning. It connects us because of our need for knowledge and experience. Take borders away and we all become one. All the same. Nothing to teach, learn, understand and experience.
As for immigrants, i have no problem with refugees. They dont have a choice. Unless i want them to die, i dont have one either. Immigrants though, depends. If they contribute to our economy or our lives yes. If they however mess with the already very fragile balance of my country then no. Like Somalian shops. They work. They employ. They pay tax. They give a service. Cant picture a Somalian breaking into my house. I have no reason so be offended by their presence. Nigerians in sunnyside? With their pirate dvds and prostitutes ? They spread HIV, they inslave, their services are criminal. They must go home please and they must take their cam dvds with them. Really. 8A/8V atleast.
you cant have issues with immigrants because of drugs. How odd. Citizens sell drugs. Citizens smuggle drugs to other countries.
Earth was never intended to be free for all. Borders have been part of our history since the beginning of time. Without borders nothing will seperate us. Seperation makes us different. Cultures. Languages. The way we think. Teaching. Learning. It connects us because of our need for knowledge and experience. Take borders away and we all become one. All the same. Nothing to teach, learn, understand and experience.
As for immigrants, i have no problem with refugees. They dont have a choice. Unless i want them to die, i dont have one either. Immigrants though, depends. If they contribute to our economy or our lives yes. If they however mess with the already very fragile balance of my country then no. Like Somalian shops. They work. They employ. They pay tax. They give a service. Cant picture a Somalian breaking into my house. I have no reason so be offended by their presence. Nigerians in sunnyside? With their pirate dvds and prostitutes ? They spread HIV, they inslave, their services are criminal. They must go home please and they must take their cam dvds with them. Really. 8A/8V atleast.
Xiao Zen 2015/10/06 07:55
If there are three people in a room there are likely to be five opinions on any one matter. I would say our differences come not from invisible borders but a complex relationship environment, experience, exposure to ideas and personalities.
Borders separate people, it implants the idea of national identity that all too often leads to conflict. People see others not as individuals but as avatars of an identity. We judge people on so many other identities I do not believe the removal of borders would remove or diminish the idea of identities.
Quote: detrimentum: you cant have issues with immigrants because of drugs. How odd. Citizens sell drugs. Citizens smuggle drugs to other countries.
Earth was never intended to be free for all. Borders have been part of our history since the beginning of time. Without borders nothing will seperate us. Seperation makes us different. Cultures. Languages. The way we think. Teaching. Learning. It connects us because of our need for knowledge and experience. Take borders away and we all become one. All the same. Nothing to teach, learn, understand and experience.
As for immigrants, i have no problem with refugees. They dont have a choice. Unless i want them to die, i dont have one either. Immigrants though, depends. If they contribute to our economy or our lives yes. If they however mess with the already very fragile balance of my country then no. Like Somalian shops. They work. They employ. They pay tax. They give a service. Cant picture a Somalian breaking into my house. I have no reason so be offended by their presence. Nigerians in sunnyside? With their pirate dvds and prostitutes ? They spread HIV, they inslave, their services are criminal. They must go home please and they must take their cam dvds with them. Really. 8A/8V atleast.
Earth was never intended to be free for all. Borders have been part of our history since the beginning of time. Without borders nothing will seperate us. Seperation makes us different. Cultures. Languages. The way we think. Teaching. Learning. It connects us because of our need for knowledge and experience. Take borders away and we all become one. All the same. Nothing to teach, learn, understand and experience.
As for immigrants, i have no problem with refugees. They dont have a choice. Unless i want them to die, i dont have one either. Immigrants though, depends. If they contribute to our economy or our lives yes. If they however mess with the already very fragile balance of my country then no. Like Somalian shops. They work. They employ. They pay tax. They give a service. Cant picture a Somalian breaking into my house. I have no reason so be offended by their presence. Nigerians in sunnyside? With their pirate dvds and prostitutes ? They spread HIV, they inslave, their services are criminal. They must go home please and they must take their cam dvds with them. Really. 8A/8V atleast.
If there are three people in a room there are likely to be five opinions on any one matter. I would say our differences come not from invisible borders but a complex relationship environment, experience, exposure to ideas and personalities.
Borders separate people, it implants the idea of national identity that all too often leads to conflict. People see others not as individuals but as avatars of an identity. We judge people on so many other identities I do not believe the removal of borders would remove or diminish the idea of identities.
Xiao Zen 2015/10/06 08:07
Being an immigrant to this nation I am not in any position to make judgements of those who are immigrants in my own homeland but since I do what I can to be a good guest in my host nation, I expect the same of those who are guests of my homeland.
Being an immigrant to this nation I am not in any position to make judgements of those who are immigrants in my own homeland but since I do what I can to be a good guest in my host nation, I expect the same of those who are guests of my homeland.
detrimentum 2015/10/06 10:53
diminish the idea no. What about sports? Movie and music industry? Being competitive? Pride and love for ones own? We need that. Making borders go away wont stop wars, it wont stop discrimination or intolerance. Might even make it worse.
Quote: Leiko:
If there are three people in a room there are likely to be five opinions on any one matter. I would say our differences come not from invisible borders but a complex relationship environment, experience, exposure to ideas and personalities.
Borders separate people, it implants the idea of national identity that all too often leads to conflict. People see others not as individuals but as avatars of an identity. We judge people on so many other identities I do not believe the removal of borders would remove or diminish the idea of identities.
If there are three people in a room there are likely to be five opinions on any one matter. I would say our differences come not from invisible borders but a complex relationship environment, experience, exposure to ideas and personalities.
Borders separate people, it implants the idea of national identity that all too often leads to conflict. People see others not as individuals but as avatars of an identity. We judge people on so many other identities I do not believe the removal of borders would remove or diminish the idea of identities.
diminish the idea no. What about sports? Movie and music industry? Being competitive? Pride and love for ones own? We need that. Making borders go away wont stop wars, it wont stop discrimination or intolerance. Might even make it worse.
NinthElement 2015/10/06 14:10
So yes we will always have some notion of borders as a natural means of geographical organisation and the distinct identities that result from different communities, but maybe one day they will no longer be hard divisions on freedom of movement and standards of living etc.
Quote: detrimentum:
diminish the idea no. What about sports? Movie and music industry? Being competitive? Pride and love for ones own? We need that. Making borders go away wont stop wars, it wont stop discrimination or intolerance. Might even make it worse.
I think it's necessary to distinguish between political borders and regional borders. Every town and city has a border for example, and towns and cities can have their own identity and even culture within a country to a certain extent, and more so for distinct regions within a country such as Scotland, Wales and England in Britain.
diminish the idea no. What about sports? Movie and music industry? Being competitive? Pride and love for ones own? We need that. Making borders go away wont stop wars, it wont stop discrimination or intolerance. Might even make it worse.
So yes we will always have some notion of borders as a natural means of geographical organisation and the distinct identities that result from different communities, but maybe one day they will no longer be hard divisions on freedom of movement and standards of living etc.
Xiao Zen 2015/10/06 15:30
Pride and love for ones own is problematic, on the surface it may seem innocent enough but there is a darker side to it. The general othering that it promotes of those not "ones own" and from there it is but a hairs breadth from the hatred of those not ones own. Naturally not all who have pride in and love their own go down this path but enough do that this was the single largest cause for conflict in the last century.
Society is a fluid thing, organic, if you change the format of discourse it will likewise change to accommodate that. The status quo is unsustainable chica, if global society does not change and grow then we will at best stagnate and at worst implode. Change is not without its pitfalls and those who oppose it for one reason or the other but I believe that working towards the ideal of a borderless society is our best chance of avoiding many problems that we currently experience. It is what humanity has been working towards ever since the first group of caveman decided to work with another group for mutual benefit.
Quote: detrimentum:
diminish the idea no. What about sports? Movie and music industry? Being competitive? Pride and love for ones own? We need that. Making borders go away wont stop wars, it wont stop discrimination or intolerance. Might even make it worse.
diminish the idea no. What about sports? Movie and music industry? Being competitive? Pride and love for ones own? We need that. Making borders go away wont stop wars, it wont stop discrimination or intolerance. Might even make it worse.
Pride and love for ones own is problematic, on the surface it may seem innocent enough but there is a darker side to it. The general othering that it promotes of those not "ones own" and from there it is but a hairs breadth from the hatred of those not ones own. Naturally not all who have pride in and love their own go down this path but enough do that this was the single largest cause for conflict in the last century.
Society is a fluid thing, organic, if you change the format of discourse it will likewise change to accommodate that. The status quo is unsustainable chica, if global society does not change and grow then we will at best stagnate and at worst implode. Change is not without its pitfalls and those who oppose it for one reason or the other but I believe that working towards the ideal of a borderless society is our best chance of avoiding many problems that we currently experience. It is what humanity has been working towards ever since the first group of caveman decided to work with another group for mutual benefit.
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