head transplant by detrimentum 2015/09/14 19:32
A man set to become the worlds first head
transplant patient has scheduled the procedure
for December 2017. Valery Spiridonov, 30, was diagnosed with a
genetic muscle-wasting condition called
Werdnig-Hoffmann disease, and volunteered for
the procedure despite the risks involved, Central
European News (CEN) reported. When I realized that I could participate in
something really big and important, I had no
doubt left in my mind and started to work in this
direction, Spiridonov, a Russian computer
scientist, told CEN. The only thing I feel is the
sense of pleasant impatience, like I have been preparing for something important all my life and
it is starting to happen. Dr. Sergio Canavero, an Italian neurosurgeon, will
perform the procedure on Spiridonov. The
procedure is expected to last up to 36 hours, and
it will require Spiridonovs head be cooled as well
as the donors body to extend the period during
which the cells can survive without oxygen, CEN reported.
A man set to become the worlds first head
transplant patient has scheduled the procedure
for December 2017. Valery Spiridonov, 30, was diagnosed with a
genetic muscle-wasting condition called
Werdnig-Hoffmann disease, and volunteered for
the procedure despite the risks involved, Central
European News (CEN) reported. When I realized that I could participate in
something really big and important, I had no
doubt left in my mind and started to work in this
direction, Spiridonov, a Russian computer
scientist, told CEN. The only thing I feel is the
sense of pleasant impatience, like I have been preparing for something important all my life and
it is starting to happen. Dr. Sergio Canavero, an Italian neurosurgeon, will
perform the procedure on Spiridonov. The
procedure is expected to last up to 36 hours, and
it will require Spiridonovs head be cooled as well
as the donors body to extend the period during
which the cells can survive without oxygen, CEN reported.
detrimentum 2015/09/14 19:41
this is messed up. This is playing God. Its so wrong. organs are one thing. But a head? Your brain makes you who you are, how can you move who you are to another body? One that belonged to another person? The persons spirit. The persons joy and sadness. Your body experiences everything with you. You touch those you love , you smell and taste. You comfort. How can you just put your brain on someone elses history? I'm sorry but this is freaking me out! Cant deal!
this is messed up. This is playing God. Its so wrong. organs are one thing. But a head? Your brain makes you who you are, how can you move who you are to another body? One that belonged to another person? The persons spirit. The persons joy and sadness. Your body experiences everything with you. You touch those you love , you smell and taste. You comfort. How can you just put your brain on someone elses history? I'm sorry but this is freaking me out! Cant deal!
Boet 2015/09/14 20:04
Quote: detrimentum: o.O still cant deal!
After much consideration and soul-searching, i feel much the same Detri. Even organ transplants perplex me somewhat. If we have a date with death, who are we to prolong life? Are we playing God, or are we instruments in the hand of God? To my mind, this is a very complex conundrum with good arguments either way.
detrimentum 2015/09/14 20:16
one can argue that God gave us intellect to survive. Getting a heart , which is just a muscle, to live is one thing. Putting your humanity, that which gives you free will, that which makes you a divine being, that which sets you apart from all creation on someone elses body, a body that was the "host" of another humans soul is playing God. His disabled not dying. He is ungrateful for the perfectly imperfect body he was given, for a reason. Its like putting my head on another body because i'm short. If God wanted me tall i'd be tall. My shortness is perfect in the eyes of the One that made me short, just as the eyes of the blind is perfect to the One that made them so. Because there is a complex perfection in the ability not to see. I'm not easily shocked, but i'm completely shocked.
Quote: Boet: After much consideration and soul-searching, i feel much the same Detri. Even organ transplants perplex me somewhat. If we have a date with death, who are we to prolong life? Are we playing God, or are we instruments in the hand of God? To my mind, this is a very complex conundrum with good arguments either way.
one can argue that God gave us intellect to survive. Getting a heart , which is just a muscle, to live is one thing. Putting your humanity, that which gives you free will, that which makes you a divine being, that which sets you apart from all creation on someone elses body, a body that was the "host" of another humans soul is playing God. His disabled not dying. He is ungrateful for the perfectly imperfect body he was given, for a reason. Its like putting my head on another body because i'm short. If God wanted me tall i'd be tall. My shortness is perfect in the eyes of the One that made me short, just as the eyes of the blind is perfect to the One that made them so. Because there is a complex perfection in the ability not to see. I'm not easily shocked, but i'm completely shocked.
NinthElement 2015/09/14 20:22
I have serious doubts this will actually work, which is perhaps why we haven't heard more about it. Bodies have been known to reject organs that are detected as not belonging, but try attaching a new head and basically the body and head will never return to life.
I have serious doubts this will actually work, which is perhaps why we haven't heard more about it. Bodies have been known to reject organs that are detected as not belonging, but try attaching a new head and basically the body and head will never return to life.
NinthElement 2015/09/15 01:50
Quote: detrimentum: "...volunteered for
the procedure despite the risks involved..."
This is the key phrase, but it is rather an understatement as they should have said "despite the virtual certainty of death involved".
the procedure despite the risks involved..."
Georginia 2015/09/15 03:56
Its really a shocking news. WIll they be able to perform it. We'll just have to wait and watch.
36 hrs in Operation theatre to perform transplantation its impossible. The Surgeon him self will die standing in Ot n performing it.
Its really a shocking news. WIll they be able to perform it. We'll just have to wait and watch.
36 hrs in Operation theatre to perform transplantation its impossible. The Surgeon him self will die standing in Ot n performing it.
Thapasya 2015/09/15 07:24
I think before comments, we lets wait and watch for howmuch it will become success...however the news shared by above is highly appropriated.
I think before comments, we lets wait and watch for howmuch it will become success...however the news shared by above is highly appropriated.
Lelsi 2015/09/15 08:41
It's a fiction I doubt it will work and even if it would be successful ,there is no guarantee that body will accept the new tissue. They have done head transplant on monkeys ,on mice ,but none of the animals lived longer of few days after the surgery. And even if it work on human ,how they're gonna make the brain work? How's the person ever be able to eat ,to walk, to think?And what about the memories ?Would the receiver have donors memories ?
It's a fiction I doubt it will work and even if it would be successful ,there is no guarantee that body will accept the new tissue. They have done head transplant on monkeys ,on mice ,but none of the animals lived longer of few days after the surgery. And even if it work on human ,how they're gonna make the brain work? How's the person ever be able to eat ,to walk, to think?And what about the memories ?Would the receiver have donors memories ?
Xiao Zen 2015/09/15 10:22
"I beheld the wretch the miserable monster whom I had created. He held up the curtain of the bed; and his eyes, if eyes they may be called, were fixed on me. His jaws opened, and he muttered some inarticulate sounds, while a grin wrinkled his cheeks. He might have spoken, but I did not hear; one hand was stretched out, seemingly to detain me, but I escaped and rushed downstairs. I took refuge in the courtyard belonging to the house which I inhabited, where I remained during the rest of the night, walking up and down in the greatest agitation, listening attentively, catching and fearing each sound as if it were to announce the approach of the demoniacal corpse to which I had so miserably given life." - Frankenstein by Mary Shelley.
"I beheld the wretch the miserable monster whom I had created. He held up the curtain of the bed; and his eyes, if eyes they may be called, were fixed on me. His jaws opened, and he muttered some inarticulate sounds, while a grin wrinkled his cheeks. He might have spoken, but I did not hear; one hand was stretched out, seemingly to detain me, but I escaped and rushed downstairs. I took refuge in the courtyard belonging to the house which I inhabited, where I remained during the rest of the night, walking up and down in the greatest agitation, listening attentively, catching and fearing each sound as if it were to announce the approach of the demoniacal corpse to which I had so miserably given life." - Frankenstein by Mary Shelley.
ACIDized 2015/09/15 11:56
I'm waiting for brain transplant to be feasible, then I can take some wiser 2wappers brain.
I'm waiting for brain transplant to be feasible, then I can take some wiser 2wappers brain.
detrimentum 2015/09/15 14:08
Sunday 13 September 2015
The likely date and location for the first-ever human head transplant have been set, after the controversial Italian doctor that will lead the
surgery said that he has selected his team of
surgeons.
Radical Italian surgeon Sergio Canavero has
drawn fascination and criticism after he
announced plans to cut off a mans head and put it onto another body .
Many had expected that the planned operation
would probably never happen but a team has
now been appointed to lead the operation.
Canavero is hoping to complete the procedure
which will take 36-hours, and cost *11 million
by December 2017, according to Russia Today.
The transplant is likely to happen in China, with a
team made up largely of doctors from the
country, according to AFP. That is likely to raise
worries about the already highly-controversial
operation, since China has been criticised for
using the organs of executed prisoners without their consent.
The procedure has already drawn widespread
condemnation, from doctors who say that it is likely to kill the person undergoing it , and that if he does survive he will undergo something a "lot worse than death . Russian Valery Spiridonov has already been
selected as the recipient of the new body . He suffers from the rare, genetic Werdnig-
Hoffmann disease, which gradually wastes away
his muscles. During the procedure, the donor and patient will
each have their head sliced off their body in a
super-fast procedure. The transplanted parts will
then be stuck together with glue and stitches. Spiridinov will then be placed in a month-long
coma and injected with drugs intended to stop
the body and head from rejecting each other. Since the procedure is unprecedented, apart from
mixed results in dogs and monkeys, doctors are
not sure what could happen during the surgery
or how Spiridinov is likely to be if and when he
wakes up. Ren Xiaoping, who will work with Canavero to
try and attempt the procedure in the next two
years, said that the team will only attempt it if
research and tests show that it is likely to be
successful. The operation will probably happen in China, at
the Harbin Medical University, according to
reports.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/head-transplant-team-selected-for-controversial-operation-that-will-go-ahead-in-2017-10498627.html
Sunday 13 September 2015
The likely date and location for the first-ever human head transplant have been set, after the controversial Italian doctor that will lead the
surgery said that he has selected his team of
surgeons.
Radical Italian surgeon Sergio Canavero has
drawn fascination and criticism after he
announced plans to cut off a mans head and put it onto another body .
Many had expected that the planned operation
would probably never happen but a team has
now been appointed to lead the operation.
Canavero is hoping to complete the procedure
which will take 36-hours, and cost *11 million
by December 2017, according to Russia Today.
The transplant is likely to happen in China, with a
team made up largely of doctors from the
country, according to AFP. That is likely to raise
worries about the already highly-controversial
operation, since China has been criticised for
using the organs of executed prisoners without their consent.
The procedure has already drawn widespread
condemnation, from doctors who say that it is likely to kill the person undergoing it , and that if he does survive he will undergo something a "lot worse than death . Russian Valery Spiridonov has already been
selected as the recipient of the new body . He suffers from the rare, genetic Werdnig-
Hoffmann disease, which gradually wastes away
his muscles. During the procedure, the donor and patient will
each have their head sliced off their body in a
super-fast procedure. The transplanted parts will
then be stuck together with glue and stitches. Spiridinov will then be placed in a month-long
coma and injected with drugs intended to stop
the body and head from rejecting each other. Since the procedure is unprecedented, apart from
mixed results in dogs and monkeys, doctors are
not sure what could happen during the surgery
or how Spiridinov is likely to be if and when he
wakes up. Ren Xiaoping, who will work with Canavero to
try and attempt the procedure in the next two
years, said that the team will only attempt it if
research and tests show that it is likely to be
successful. The operation will probably happen in China, at
the Harbin Medical University, according to
reports.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/head-transplant-team-selected-for-controversial-operation-that-will-go-ahead-in-2017-10498627.html
virago 2015/09/15 20:12
I call bullshxt. I don't see it being very successful or replicable. How on earth do you reattach two severed spinal cords and the intricate neuronal connections and make a whole person again? We've been having a hard enough time with paraplegics. Still, the ethical implications might be a bit iffy, but the scientific implications excite me. The recipient will have to be kept on a shxtload of immunosuppressants though to have even a remote chance of surviving.
I call bullshxt. I don't see it being very successful or replicable. How on earth do you reattach two severed spinal cords and the intricate neuronal connections and make a whole person again? We've been having a hard enough time with paraplegics. Still, the ethical implications might be a bit iffy, but the scientific implications excite me. The recipient will have to be kept on a shxtload of immunosuppressants though to have even a remote chance of surviving.
Samuel099 2016/01/18 14:22
They're all fecking magicians, cuz it is impossible to do such a thing.
Magicians at work ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!
They're all fecking magicians, cuz it is impossible to do such a thing.
Magicians at work ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!
zugzwang 2016/01/18 14:57
Quote: Lelsi: It's a fiction I doubt it will work and even if it would be successful ,there is no guarantee that body will accept the new tissue. They have done head transplant on monkeys ,on mice ,but none of the animals lived longer of few days after the surgery. And even if it work on human ,how they're gonna make the brain work? How's the person ever be able to eat ,to walk, to think?And what about the memories ?Would the receiver have donors memories ?
how ll the new speci reacts is another subject. first let us see d succsessful plantation
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