A revolution in UK politics? by NinthElement 2015/09/13 06:08
Jeremy Corbyn has become the leader of the UK Labour party, following an extraordinary leadership campaign in which he went from being a 200/1 outsider to a landslide victory.
Following his confirmation as leader at a conference on Saturday morning, he headed off to join a rally in Westminster in support of refugees seeking asylum, where he gave a speech true to his form as a campaigner for human rights and equality.
A left-wing Labour MP for 32 years, he energised what otherwise seemed certain to be a very dull campaign for the leadership by displaying what many regarded as principled and authentic qualities lacking in other politicians. To others including former Labour prime minister Tony Blair, he was very much the man they didn't want to see win, with his ideas seen by them as quixotic and unrealistic.
But won he has and resoundingly so, though he now faces a tough challenge to carry this energy and enthusiasm through to the next general election in 2020 if he is to become prime minister, especially with much healing still to be done in his own party. His policies which include quantitive easing, scrapping Trident, opposing military intervention and renationalising the railways could now soon become party policies, giving the electorate two very different choices in 4 and half years. What does his triumph mean to you?
Jeremy Corbyn has become the leader of the UK Labour party, following an extraordinary leadership campaign in which he went from being a 200/1 outsider to a landslide victory.
Following his confirmation as leader at a conference on Saturday morning, he headed off to join a rally in Westminster in support of refugees seeking asylum, where he gave a speech true to his form as a campaigner for human rights and equality.
A left-wing Labour MP for 32 years, he energised what otherwise seemed certain to be a very dull campaign for the leadership by displaying what many regarded as principled and authentic qualities lacking in other politicians. To others including former Labour prime minister Tony Blair, he was very much the man they didn't want to see win, with his ideas seen by them as quixotic and unrealistic.
But won he has and resoundingly so, though he now faces a tough challenge to carry this energy and enthusiasm through to the next general election in 2020 if he is to become prime minister, especially with much healing still to be done in his own party. His policies which include quantitive easing, scrapping Trident, opposing military intervention and renationalising the railways could now soon become party policies, giving the electorate two very different choices in 4 and half years. What does his triumph mean to you?
Xiao Zen 2015/09/13 06:57
I know and I cannot say that I am not pleased with this outcome. I believe that should he hold true to his promises (I am cynical by default as far as politicians go) and should he win the elections in 2020, he would surely take the UK in a different direction and one that I would like to think would be a more positive one.
It will be a long road to 2020 for him however and an even longer one should he become PM but he is providing the UK with an alternative voice / options and this is never a negative thing. The British public will support him or not, he may succeed in his campaign or fail but I believe that is a choice for the citizens to make not for other politicians, spin doctors, lobbyists or commentators. I do not know that all their mudslinging and personal attacks are necessary nor that such antics have any place in a mature and honest discussion about the future of the UK.
Quote: Ragnorak: Jeremy Corbyn has become the leader of the UK Labour party, following an extraordinary leadership campaign in which he went from being a 200/1 outsider to a landslide victory.
Following his confirmation as leader at a conference on Saturday morning, he headed off to join a rally in Westminster in support of refugees seeking asylum, where he gave a speech true to his form as a campaigner for human rights and equality.
A left-wing Labour MP for 32 years, he energised what otherwise seemed certain to be a very dull campaign for the leadership by displaying what many regarded as principled and authentic qualities lacking in other politicians. To others including former Labour prime minister Tony Blair, he was very much the man they didn't want to see win, with his ideas seen by them as quixotic and unrealistic.
But won he has and resoundingly so, though he now faces a tough challenge to carry this energy and enthusiasm through to the next general election in 2020 if he is to become prime minister, especially with much healing still to be done in his own party. His policies which include quantitive easing, scrapping Trident, opposing military intervention and renationalising the railways could now soon become party policies, giving the electorate two very different choices in 4 and half years. What does his triumph mean to you?
Following his confirmation as leader at a conference on Saturday morning, he headed off to join a rally in Westminster in support of refugees seeking asylum, where he gave a speech true to his form as a campaigner for human rights and equality.
A left-wing Labour MP for 32 years, he energised what otherwise seemed certain to be a very dull campaign for the leadership by displaying what many regarded as principled and authentic qualities lacking in other politicians. To others including former Labour prime minister Tony Blair, he was very much the man they didn't want to see win, with his ideas seen by them as quixotic and unrealistic.
But won he has and resoundingly so, though he now faces a tough challenge to carry this energy and enthusiasm through to the next general election in 2020 if he is to become prime minister, especially with much healing still to be done in his own party. His policies which include quantitive easing, scrapping Trident, opposing military intervention and renationalising the railways could now soon become party policies, giving the electorate two very different choices in 4 and half years. What does his triumph mean to you?
I know and I cannot say that I am not pleased with this outcome. I believe that should he hold true to his promises (I am cynical by default as far as politicians go) and should he win the elections in 2020, he would surely take the UK in a different direction and one that I would like to think would be a more positive one.
It will be a long road to 2020 for him however and an even longer one should he become PM but he is providing the UK with an alternative voice / options and this is never a negative thing. The British public will support him or not, he may succeed in his campaign or fail but I believe that is a choice for the citizens to make not for other politicians, spin doctors, lobbyists or commentators. I do not know that all their mudslinging and personal attacks are necessary nor that such antics have any place in a mature and honest discussion about the future of the UK.
Xiao Zen 2015/09/14 08:39
And David Cameron is happy to order the execution of British citizens abroad via drone strike without trail, parliamentary approval or even presenting proof. Say what you want of Jeremy Corbyn but I for one would much rather have him as a neighbor than David Cameron and his ilk.
And David Cameron is happy to order the execution of British citizens abroad via drone strike without trail, parliamentary approval or even presenting proof. Say what you want of Jeremy Corbyn but I for one would much rather have him as a neighbor than David Cameron and his ilk.
Samuel099 2015/09/14 11:15
Quote: Eeprom: revolution ? Yes hes an Arsehole, anti war yet hes happy to meet with muslim extremists who condone killing british soldier's ! FUCK Him!
You're right! but saying it frankly let people shocked coz They don't want to hear it or seen it in public. . Thanks for being such a brave man... -nana-
Xiao Zen 2015/09/15 10:10
You misunderstand, what I am trying to point out is that in a modern democracy there are certain checks and balances, safeguards to ensure a government does not abuse its power or turn its might against its own citizens. That this happened and that it was not successfully challenged erodes some of those safeguards and sets a dangerous precedent.
Benjamin Franklin once wrote, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." and this is what concerns me.
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YES it was FUCKING GREAT!
Dont you wish your country was capable of such!
great that recently our uk RAF did use their unmanned craft and successfully targeted and killed 2 of or and hopefully many more even if uk citizens, Top (EX UK) Scumbag ISIS c***s! Any IS is c***s! and if using an unmanned bird gets the job done then so be it!,
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they lost any rights to decent treatment,fair trials or Anything when they joined ISIS.
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Nodoubt you'd have preferred they captured and jailed for a few years Untill it affects your family then your stance will instantly change !
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FUCK THEM even their own families disowned them after their joining ISIS then wishing war on uk and other countries ,i say again but edited FUCK THEM BOTH IN HELL
YES it was FUCKING GREAT!
Dont you wish your country was capable of such!
great that recently our uk RAF did use their unmanned craft and successfully targeted and killed 2 of or and hopefully many more even if uk citizens, Top (EX UK) Scumbag ISIS c***s! Any IS is c***s! and if using an unmanned bird gets the job done then so be it!,
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they lost any rights to decent treatment,fair trials or Anything when they joined ISIS.
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Nodoubt you'd have preferred they captured and jailed for a few years Untill it affects your family then your stance will instantly change !
.
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FUCK THEM even their own families disowned them after their joining ISIS then wishing war on uk and other countries ,i say again but edited FUCK THEM BOTH IN HELL
You misunderstand, what I am trying to point out is that in a modern democracy there are certain checks and balances, safeguards to ensure a government does not abuse its power or turn its might against its own citizens. That this happened and that it was not successfully challenged erodes some of those safeguards and sets a dangerous precedent.
Benjamin Franklin once wrote, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." and this is what concerns me.
AGONYandEXTASY 2015/09/15 18:08
i dare saying that this whole shxt has been a manipulation of famous secret society"youknowho"...if one have just a vague panoramic view of what's happening on this scene for few good decades it's pretty clear what superpowers are capable of just for keeping supremacy over the whole planet...
i dare saying that this whole shxt has been a manipulation of famous secret society"youknowho"...if one have just a vague panoramic view of what's happening on this scene for few good decades it's pretty clear what superpowers are capable of just for keeping supremacy over the whole planet...
virago 2015/09/15 20:27
He appears to have been on the right side of history on many pertinent issues and the very fact that his win seems to have peaceed off our very own resident fundos here, I think it bodes well for the future of the UK.
He appears to have been on the right side of history on many pertinent issues and the very fact that his win seems to have peaceed off our very own resident fundos here, I think it bodes well for the future of the UK.
Boet 2015/09/16 01:23
I think that even though he is controversial, and perhaps not well liked by many of his peers in Labour, he is a man with sober thoughts, and a healthy foresight. He is obviously not a man that will dance to the tune of populistic dictators or politicians. I commend him for his brave stand towards humanism, and his ideas of lessening undue hardships on his fellow human beings
I think that even though he is controversial, and perhaps not well liked by many of his peers in Labour, he is a man with sober thoughts, and a healthy foresight. He is obviously not a man that will dance to the tune of populistic dictators or politicians. I commend him for his brave stand towards humanism, and his ideas of lessening undue hardships on his fellow human beings
NinthElement 2016/06/27 20:03
Although Jeremy Corbyn supported remaining in the EU, he didn't campaign for it as enthusiastically as David Cameron did for instance which is what has led to this quite remarkable rebellion. He is defying his critics and seems determined to hold on though.
Although Jeremy Corbyn supported remaining in the EU, he didn't campaign for it as enthusiastically as David Cameron did for instance which is what has led to this quite remarkable rebellion. He is defying his critics and seems determined to hold on though.
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