What is the condition of the dead? by Rango 2015/07/28 19:39
Lets look at this topic this time and find out realy what the condition of the dead is.I might have said about it earlier in the forum posts but I hope this can add light on it.
Let us consider one of the most used scripure as regard to this matter:
THE BIBLE ANSWERS:"The living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgoten.Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the grave, where you are going."*-Ecclesiastes 9:5,10.
The grave, simply put, is where humans go when they die; It is a symbolic place or condition where any consciousness or activity ceases.How did the faithfull man Job view the grave? He had lost all his possessions and children in one day, and then he was struck with agonising boils all over his body.He pleaded with God: "O that in the Grave ["in hell," Catholic Douay Version] you would conceal me, that you would hide me."( Job 1:13-19; 14:13) Clearly, Job did not understand the Grave to be a fiery hell, a place where his suffering would be even worse.Rather, he thought of it as a place of relief.
There is another way to learn about the condition of the dead.We can examin the inspired scriptural records concerning eight people who returned from the dead.
A widow's son:1 Kings 17:17-24
A Shunammite boy: 2 Kings 4:32-37
A man in a burial place: 2 Kings 13:20,21
The son of the widow of Nain Luke 7:11-15
Jairus' daughter: Luke 8:41,42,49-56
Lazarus: John 11:38-44
Dorcas: Acts 9:36-42
Eutychus: Acts 20:7-12
Not one of those eight spoke about being in a place of bliss or torment.If the people who had ressurected had gone to such place when they died, would they not have told people about it?And would this not be included in the inspired Bible record for all to see? In the scriptures, nothing of the kind is recorded.Those eight people evidently had nothing to say on the subject.Why not? Because they had been unconscious, as if in a deep sleep.In fact, the Bible sometimes uses sleep as an illustration to explain death.For example, faithfull David and Steven both "fell asleep in death."-Acts 7:60; 13:36.
What hope, then, is there for the dead? Can they awaken from this sleep?
For more information, download and read the ebook "LIFE AFTER DEATH, Is It Possible?" or post a comment with your reply.
Lets look at this topic this time and find out realy what the condition of the dead is.I might have said about it earlier in the forum posts but I hope this can add light on it.
Let us consider one of the most used scripure as regard to this matter:
THE BIBLE ANSWERS:"The living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgoten.Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the grave, where you are going."*-Ecclesiastes 9:5,10.
The grave, simply put, is where humans go when they die; It is a symbolic place or condition where any consciousness or activity ceases.How did the faithfull man Job view the grave? He had lost all his possessions and children in one day, and then he was struck with agonising boils all over his body.He pleaded with God: "O that in the Grave ["in hell," Catholic Douay Version] you would conceal me, that you would hide me."( Job 1:13-19; 14:13) Clearly, Job did not understand the Grave to be a fiery hell, a place where his suffering would be even worse.Rather, he thought of it as a place of relief.
There is another way to learn about the condition of the dead.We can examin the inspired scriptural records concerning eight people who returned from the dead.
A widow's son:1 Kings 17:17-24
A Shunammite boy: 2 Kings 4:32-37
A man in a burial place: 2 Kings 13:20,21
The son of the widow of Nain Luke 7:11-15
Jairus' daughter: Luke 8:41,42,49-56
Lazarus: John 11:38-44
Dorcas: Acts 9:36-42
Eutychus: Acts 20:7-12
Not one of those eight spoke about being in a place of bliss or torment.If the people who had ressurected had gone to such place when they died, would they not have told people about it?And would this not be included in the inspired Bible record for all to see? In the scriptures, nothing of the kind is recorded.Those eight people evidently had nothing to say on the subject.Why not? Because they had been unconscious, as if in a deep sleep.In fact, the Bible sometimes uses sleep as an illustration to explain death.For example, faithfull David and Steven both "fell asleep in death."-Acts 7:60; 13:36.
What hope, then, is there for the dead? Can they awaken from this sleep?
For more information, download and read the ebook "LIFE AFTER DEATH, Is It Possible?" or post a comment with your reply.
detrimentum 2015/09/01 19:17
are you suggesting there will be no life in the after life? I'm confused. Are you talking about spirit or body?
are you suggesting there will be no life in the after life? I'm confused. Are you talking about spirit or body?
detrimentum 2015/09/01 19:33
when Jesus returns: “Do not marvel at this; for the hour is
coming in which all who are in the graves will
hear His voice and come forth—those who have
done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of
condemnation.†(John 5:28, 29, NKJV).
“I am the
resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me,
though he may die, he shall live.†(John 11:25).
For the Lord Himself
will descend from heaven with a shout, with the
voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of
God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.†(1 Thessalonians 4:16, NKJV).
“Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also
in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if
it were not so, I would have told you. I go to
prepare a place for you.And if I go and prepare a
place for you, I will come again and receive you
to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.†(John 14:1-3, NKJV).
Death, where is your sting?
O Hades, where is your victory?†(1 Corinthians
15:55).
Christ was in His grave. Dead. Then He defeated death. He is now alive. And like Him, we will defeat death too, some will die a second time, and that is Hell. Those who are saved will live forever.
when Jesus returns: “Do not marvel at this; for the hour is
coming in which all who are in the graves will
hear His voice and come forth—those who have
done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of
condemnation.†(John 5:28, 29, NKJV).
“I am the
resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me,
though he may die, he shall live.†(John 11:25).
For the Lord Himself
will descend from heaven with a shout, with the
voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of
God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.†(1 Thessalonians 4:16, NKJV).
“Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also
in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if
it were not so, I would have told you. I go to
prepare a place for you.And if I go and prepare a
place for you, I will come again and receive you
to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.†(John 14:1-3, NKJV).
Death, where is your sting?
O Hades, where is your victory?†(1 Corinthians
15:55).
Christ was in His grave. Dead. Then He defeated death. He is now alive. And like Him, we will defeat death too, some will die a second time, and that is Hell. Those who are saved will live forever.
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