Same-Sex Marriage Rights Are Human Rights by Samuel099 2015/07/23 12:09
The European Court of Human Rights has condemned Italy’s Vatican-inspired rejection of civil unions and gay marriage.
ROME — The Via San Giovanni in Laterano in Rome is a picturesque cobbled street anchored on one end by the ancient Roman Coliseum and on the other by the Catholic Church of San Clemente, which boasts 2,000 years of history and a pagan temple in its basement. It is also designated as the Italian capital’s official “gay street†and every single establishment is draped with rainbow flags and promises to be gay friendly. This is certainly not the only area of Rome that caters to the LGBT community, but it is the only one that does so openly.
At a bar called Coming Out, a group of young men having lunch tell The Daily Beast that being gay inItalyis complicated. “This street represents our position,†one says. “We are stuck here between the Catholic church and a long history with traditions that are impossible to modernize. To be gay in Italy is about knowing when to admit it and when to keep quiet.â€
Indeed, gays in Italy have long had to march a fine line. On the one hand, cities like Bologna, Gallipoli on the Puglia coast and Taormina in Sicily are among the most gay-friendly spots in all of Europe, according to countless surveys on gay life. But at the same time, the Catholic Church in Rome has been able to convince a number of Italian lawmakers that somehow same-sex marriage is a threat to traditional families, insisting that there are bigger priorities for parliament to discuss than homosexuality.
Really? The Vatican focused much of its attention at its synod last fall on that very issue. And no one should forget that
Rome is the epicenterof a not-so-secret gay priest underworld. Yet when Ireland passed a law permitting same-sex unions, a senior Vatican official called it a “defeat for all of humanity.â€
“Between the demonstrations of Catholic fundamentalists and the Gay Pride marches, you’d think there was nothing in between.â€
Emotions have been running high. On June 20 in Rome, hundreds of thousands of people crammed into San Giovanni square not far from “gay street†to protest proposed legislation that would give very basic rights to same-sex couples. A week earlier, the city’s popular annual summer-long Gay Village festival kicked off with a record number in attendance.
Ivan Scalfarotto, a 49-year-old gay shadow minister has been on a hunger strike since July 2 to protest Italy’s inability to pass the law. Writing in his popular gay rights blog, Scalfarotto blamed the Catholic Church for the impasse and said that he hoped that Italy could one day be like the most conservative states in the United States, who now respect the rights of same-sex couples, however grudgingly.
“Between the demonstrations of Catholic fundamentalists and the Gay Pride marches, you’d think there was nothing in between,†he said. “The time has come to do something more to support those working to ensureItalyfinally catches up with Kentucky, or at least gets near.â€
He may not have to wait much longer. This week, the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, France, came down hard onItalyfor what it says amounts to human rights violations because of its refusal to recognize same-sex unions of any sort.
While many European nations do not recognize same sex marriage, as such, many have established frameworks for legal partnerships roughly similar to the PACS (civil solidarity pact) in effect in France for more than 15 years. (Same-sex marriage has been in effect there since 2013.)
Indeed,Italyis the last holdout in Western Europe refusing to grant even basic civil union rights to same sex couples. So three gay couples took their cases to the human rights court in a fight for spousal tax benefits and the right to inheritance of joint property.
The court ruledin their favor and ordered Italy to pay their legal fees and €5,000 in damages. In delivering their ruling, the court said it considered that the legal protection currently available inItalyto same-sex couples, “not only failed to provide for the core needs relevant to a couple in a stable committed relationship, but it was also not sufficiently reliable.â€
On the eve of the ruling, Italian prime minister Matteo Renzi once again promised to introduce new legislation that would give same-sex couples basic rights after an earlier bill stalled in Italy’s upper house. Opposition lawmakers have added thousands of amendments to the bill that run the gamut from prohibiting same sex partners from adopting children to denying surviving partners the inheritance of state pensions.
“We will never have another electoral campaign in which we talk about legalizing civil unions as a promise,†Renzi said after the Human Rights Court decision. “This is the last call, we will pass this law by the end of the year in order to remain in line with the rest of Europe, even if we are already too late.â€
The European Court of Human Rights has condemned Italy’s Vatican-inspired rejection of civil unions and gay marriage.
ROME — The Via San Giovanni in Laterano in Rome is a picturesque cobbled street anchored on one end by the ancient Roman Coliseum and on the other by the Catholic Church of San Clemente, which boasts 2,000 years of history and a pagan temple in its basement. It is also designated as the Italian capital’s official “gay street†and every single establishment is draped with rainbow flags and promises to be gay friendly. This is certainly not the only area of Rome that caters to the LGBT community, but it is the only one that does so openly.
At a bar called Coming Out, a group of young men having lunch tell The Daily Beast that being gay inItalyis complicated. “This street represents our position,†one says. “We are stuck here between the Catholic church and a long history with traditions that are impossible to modernize. To be gay in Italy is about knowing when to admit it and when to keep quiet.â€
Indeed, gays in Italy have long had to march a fine line. On the one hand, cities like Bologna, Gallipoli on the Puglia coast and Taormina in Sicily are among the most gay-friendly spots in all of Europe, according to countless surveys on gay life. But at the same time, the Catholic Church in Rome has been able to convince a number of Italian lawmakers that somehow same-sex marriage is a threat to traditional families, insisting that there are bigger priorities for parliament to discuss than homosexuality.
Really? The Vatican focused much of its attention at its synod last fall on that very issue. And no one should forget that
Rome is the epicenterof a not-so-secret gay priest underworld. Yet when Ireland passed a law permitting same-sex unions, a senior Vatican official called it a “defeat for all of humanity.â€
“Between the demonstrations of Catholic fundamentalists and the Gay Pride marches, you’d think there was nothing in between.â€
Emotions have been running high. On June 20 in Rome, hundreds of thousands of people crammed into San Giovanni square not far from “gay street†to protest proposed legislation that would give very basic rights to same-sex couples. A week earlier, the city’s popular annual summer-long Gay Village festival kicked off with a record number in attendance.
Ivan Scalfarotto, a 49-year-old gay shadow minister has been on a hunger strike since July 2 to protest Italy’s inability to pass the law. Writing in his popular gay rights blog, Scalfarotto blamed the Catholic Church for the impasse and said that he hoped that Italy could one day be like the most conservative states in the United States, who now respect the rights of same-sex couples, however grudgingly.
“Between the demonstrations of Catholic fundamentalists and the Gay Pride marches, you’d think there was nothing in between,†he said. “The time has come to do something more to support those working to ensureItalyfinally catches up with Kentucky, or at least gets near.â€
He may not have to wait much longer. This week, the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, France, came down hard onItalyfor what it says amounts to human rights violations because of its refusal to recognize same-sex unions of any sort.
While many European nations do not recognize same sex marriage, as such, many have established frameworks for legal partnerships roughly similar to the PACS (civil solidarity pact) in effect in France for more than 15 years. (Same-sex marriage has been in effect there since 2013.)
Indeed,Italyis the last holdout in Western Europe refusing to grant even basic civil union rights to same sex couples. So three gay couples took their cases to the human rights court in a fight for spousal tax benefits and the right to inheritance of joint property.
The court ruledin their favor and ordered Italy to pay their legal fees and €5,000 in damages. In delivering their ruling, the court said it considered that the legal protection currently available inItalyto same-sex couples, “not only failed to provide for the core needs relevant to a couple in a stable committed relationship, but it was also not sufficiently reliable.â€
On the eve of the ruling, Italian prime minister Matteo Renzi once again promised to introduce new legislation that would give same-sex couples basic rights after an earlier bill stalled in Italy’s upper house. Opposition lawmakers have added thousands of amendments to the bill that run the gamut from prohibiting same sex partners from adopting children to denying surviving partners the inheritance of state pensions.
“We will never have another electoral campaign in which we talk about legalizing civil unions as a promise,†Renzi said after the Human Rights Court decision. “This is the last call, we will pass this law by the end of the year in order to remain in line with the rest of Europe, even if we are already too late.â€
Samuel099 2015/07/23 12:17
Hahaha Europeans were now called sodom and gomorrhea because they do evil that is why Russians have joined and supporting china in order to bomb this fuckers although i was born and raised in europe but now i feel shy to say it publicly.
I copied the infor thats why its lenghtly
Hahaha Europeans were now called sodom and gomorrhea because they do evil that is why Russians have joined and supporting china in order to bomb this fuckers although i was born and raised in europe but now i feel shy to say it publicly.
I copied the infor thats why its lenghtly
Xiao Zen 2015/07/26 18:49
The Vatican fiddles as the world burns and people applaud the performance
Love is always beautiful, regardless of the form it takes while hatred on the other hand ... The world faces far more pressing problems, I believe the Vatican's time would be better spent addressing those problems.
The Vatican fiddles as the world burns and people applaud the performance
Love is always beautiful, regardless of the form it takes while hatred on the other hand ... The world faces far more pressing problems, I believe the Vatican's time would be better spent addressing those problems.
detrimentum 2015/07/28 17:38
i find it a bit insane that people actually care what the pope has so say. I for one do not care at all. I read somewhere that they want to declare a fanatic belief in God as mentally insane. But the fanatical belief in a man is completely normal?
i find it a bit insane that people actually care what the pope has so say. I for one do not care at all. I read somewhere that they want to declare a fanatic belief in God as mentally insane. But the fanatical belief in a man is completely normal?
SKYZ 2015/07/29 16:06
Now i really know what organizations like isis wants.if someone did support same-sex marriage 50 years ago,he did risked hanging from stocks.Today same-sex marraige is being legalised all over the world.who knows what will be legalised next,may be rape or murder?????? Cos i know the legalisatiom dosen't end there.
Now i really know what organizations like isis wants.if someone did support same-sex marriage 50 years ago,he did risked hanging from stocks.Today same-sex marraige is being legalised all over the world.who knows what will be legalised next,may be rape or murder?????? Cos i know the legalisatiom dosen't end there.
SKYZ 2015/07/29 16:25
Now i know why there are organisations like isis.if someone proposed the idea of same-sex marrige 100 years ago u did risk hanging from the stocks.but today its like a poem in every country.For those countries that have legalised same-sex whats NEXT on the legalising LIST? RAPE or MURDER....
Now i know why there are organisations like isis.if someone proposed the idea of same-sex marrige 100 years ago u did risk hanging from the stocks.but today its like a poem in every country.For those countries that have legalised same-sex whats NEXT on the legalising LIST? RAPE or MURDER....
detrimentum 2015/07/31 18:06
when someone compares love to rape and murder. Tragic world we live in.
when someone compares love to rape and murder. Tragic world we live in.
SKYZ 2016/04/18 11:19
Tell that to hitler for because of his so calld LOVE for germany one of the greatest genocide was commtted.dont hide under Love to ply ur trade or u re no different from isis who hide under religion to ply theirs.
Quote: detrimentum: when someone compares love to rape and murder. Tragic world we live in.
Tell that to hitler for because of his so calld LOVE for germany one of the greatest genocide was commtted.dont hide under Love to ply ur trade or u re no different from isis who hide under religion to ply theirs.
SKYZ 2016/04/18 11:41
and to you mr know it all you should be telling that to isis who claim they know islam more than anyone else. Applying wrong knowledge is what always has been the problem.What do you think would happen if north korea has enough icbms,H-bombs and A-bombs? i think disaster.
Quote: ancake">Pancake:
If you don't know what's the difference between Sex between two consenting adults and rape or MURDER, it means you're a danger to society. The end
If you don't know what's the difference between Sex between two consenting adults and rape or MURDER, it means you're a danger to society. The end
and to you mr know it all you should be telling that to isis who claim they know islam more than anyone else. Applying wrong knowledge is what always has been the problem.What do you think would happen if north korea has enough icbms,H-bombs and A-bombs? i think disaster.
SKYZ 2016/04/18 12:46
i am not as blind as isis and Certainly not as blind as you.And there is a brain in brainless,just find it.
Quote: ancake">Pancake:
Murder/rape vs love/homosexual relationship, a big difference and using Hitler's love for Germany as example and Isis. ... You re disgusting and brainless, I'm sure Isis would love to recruit you.
No hope for the human race.
You won't understand a word so
You don't know the difference between rape/murder and sex/love.
It's tragic indeed
Murder/rape vs love/homosexual relationship, a big difference and using Hitler's love for Germany as example and Isis. ... You re disgusting and brainless, I'm sure Isis would love to recruit you.
No hope for the human race.
You won't understand a word so
You don't know the difference between rape/murder and sex/love.
It's tragic indeed
i am not as blind as isis and Certainly not as blind as you.And there is a brain in brainless,just find it.
paparazi 2016/04/18 13:30
There is nothing to fight about.Everyone is entitiled to his/her opinion.There are sides to this,some people consent to samesex marriage because they have seperated culture, religion from society or maybe they have outgrown them,and thats where CHANGE comes in.Some on the other hand find it difficult to secularize.I have seen d recent posts,no one in his right mind believes in isis or hitler,some ppl still see homosexuals as devils and can compare them to isis as it has been the case, while others see nothing wrong with It.It all balls down to one thing:CHANGE,some welcome it others resist it.
There is nothing to fight about.Everyone is entitiled to his/her opinion.There are sides to this,some people consent to samesex marriage because they have seperated culture, religion from society or maybe they have outgrown them,and thats where CHANGE comes in.Some on the other hand find it difficult to secularize.I have seen d recent posts,no one in his right mind believes in isis or hitler,some ppl still see homosexuals as devils and can compare them to isis as it has been the case, while others see nothing wrong with It.It all balls down to one thing:CHANGE,some welcome it others resist it.
Aires 2016/04/18 15:55
God created love,sex and everything.Who are you to call what God calls wrong right.Create God and i will be a big fan of same sex marriage.sorry,i forgot we are humans and have the right to choose thats why angels envy us.
God created love,sex and everything.Who are you to call what God calls wrong right.Create God and i will be a big fan of same sex marriage.sorry,i forgot we are humans and have the right to choose thats why angels envy us.
SKYZ 2016/04/18 21:39
having consensual sex between a he and a she isn't a problem,its the way nature designed it but when it becomes a he thing......ERROR.And dont hide under love to tell me bullshxt 'cos i love my male friends and can even give my life for some but i will never sex them.
Quote: ancake">Pancake:
Not knowing the difference between consensual sex between two adults and rape is not a cultural thing, sorry.
Not knowing the difference between consensual sex between two adults and rape is not a cultural thing, sorry.
having consensual sex between a he and a she isn't a problem,its the way nature designed it but when it becomes a he thing......ERROR.And dont hide under love to tell me bullshxt 'cos i love my male friends and can even give my life for some but i will never sex them.
SKYZ 2016/04/18 22:40
People shouldn't be judged by their sexual orientation
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i will keep that in mind.
Quote: ancake">Pancake:
Well you can love many things, you can love people, your friends, cousins, sisters without any sexual involvement, I don't know why you always bring Sex into this everytime you're talking about Love. Now this is bullshxt.
As for your male friends, if you love them, that's alright, if you're not sexual l attracted to them, it's natural, you're heterosexual. That's exactly how a homosexual feels about women, he simply isn't attracted to them. It's not his fault.
People shouldn't be judged by their sexual orientation
Well you can love many things, you can love people, your friends, cousins, sisters without any sexual involvement, I don't know why you always bring Sex into this everytime you're talking about Love. Now this is bullshxt.
As for your male friends, if you love them, that's alright, if you're not sexual l attracted to them, it's natural, you're heterosexual. That's exactly how a homosexual feels about women, he simply isn't attracted to them. It's not his fault.
People shouldn't be judged by their sexual orientation
People shouldn't be judged by their sexual orientation
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i will keep that in mind.
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