Eeek! by detrimentum 2014/08/09 10:01
Should we (especially myself, and others living on the African continent) be worried about Ebola? . . . Swine flu, bird flu even HIV (not many people are aware that they should have sex with a condom even if both people are HIV positive) the common flu for that matter, mutates all the time. The strands change. . . Whats the chances of Ebola becoming airborne? If you sneeze your bodily fluids go into the air in the form of tiny little water pockets, or not? can't those tiny little water pockets travel through the air and land on your face , and infect you with Ebola? The whole airborne thing doesn't make sense, because bodily fluids can travel through thee air. How does more than a thousand people become infected with a virus thats only transmitted through direct contact with bodily fluids? Do they urinate on each other in west africa? I doubt HIV spread this fast . WHO seems a bit too stressed out for me, HIV can also only be transmitted through bodily fluids. Is anyone medically educated enough here to answer this? . .
Should we (especially myself, and others living on the African continent) be worried about Ebola? . . . Swine flu, bird flu even HIV (not many people are aware that they should have sex with a condom even if both people are HIV positive) the common flu for that matter, mutates all the time. The strands change. . . Whats the chances of Ebola becoming airborne? If you sneeze your bodily fluids go into the air in the form of tiny little water pockets, or not? can't those tiny little water pockets travel through the air and land on your face , and infect you with Ebola? The whole airborne thing doesn't make sense, because bodily fluids can travel through thee air. How does more than a thousand people become infected with a virus thats only transmitted through direct contact with bodily fluids? Do they urinate on each other in west africa? I doubt HIV spread this fast . WHO seems a bit too stressed out for me, HIV can also only be transmitted through bodily fluids. Is anyone medically educated enough here to answer this? . .
detrimentum 2014/08/10 04:38
its very interesting actually. . . . Say you have HIV but your viral load is undetectable, meaning you don't need ARV's or other HIV drugs yet. . . Your partner has a high viral load and is on ARV's and other HIV drugs, she doesn't take her pills as she should. Skip one here and there, wait two month to refill when its done, that sort of thing. Say the ARV's are called "A". Your partner will become drug resistant. "A" will stop working. . . Now you have unprotected sex, she reinfects you with HIV resistant to "A". . . Along the line you get sick and they put you on "A" and you are resistant too. . . Many moons, many different ARV's and much unprotected sex later, you and your partner find yourselves having limited treatment options if anything . . .
Quote: outlaw: Why can't two HIV people have sex without condom btw? I thought it was okay.
its very interesting actually. . . . Say you have HIV but your viral load is undetectable, meaning you don't need ARV's or other HIV drugs yet. . . Your partner has a high viral load and is on ARV's and other HIV drugs, she doesn't take her pills as she should. Skip one here and there, wait two month to refill when its done, that sort of thing. Say the ARV's are called "A". Your partner will become drug resistant. "A" will stop working. . . Now you have unprotected sex, she reinfects you with HIV resistant to "A". . . Along the line you get sick and they put you on "A" and you are resistant too. . . Many moons, many different ARV's and much unprotected sex later, you and your partner find yourselves having limited treatment options if anything . . .
detrimentum 2014/08/10 04:44
exactly. . If one person with Ebola sneezes in a bus and it travels through the bus via the air, then its airborne and will infect everyone via the air. . No? . . . But its said its not airborne. Unless airborne is defined as something spreading for km's via the air . .which i doubt a sneeze does.
Quote: Eeprom:
Id have thought an airbourne mist of mucus from a sneeze would count as body fluids same for a powerful cough perhaps containing bloods , i remember the heath saying of "" coughs and sneezes spread diseases""
if it continues its spread I'm guessing those 3m quality face masks are going to become good sellers.
Id have thought an airbourne mist of mucus from a sneeze would count as body fluids same for a powerful cough perhaps containing bloods , i remember the heath saying of "" coughs and sneezes spread diseases""
if it continues its spread I'm guessing those 3m quality face masks are going to become good sellers.
exactly. . If one person with Ebola sneezes in a bus and it travels through the bus via the air, then its airborne and will infect everyone via the air. . No? . . . But its said its not airborne. Unless airborne is defined as something spreading for km's via the air . .which i doubt a sneeze does.
detrimentum 2014/08/10 05:27
i'm sure the export from infected countries will stop. . A while back the export of ostrich meat from South Africa stopped due to bird flu. Its not a problem anymore so countries are importing again. The movement of goods through the boarders are a bigger concern.
Quote: Eeprom: Its a very bad thing and guess uts natures way if culling the population , its happened before and no doubt it'll happen again 
Guess the best method I isolation of infected communities.
Here in England near ne is a town that decided to do just that in 1600's when the black death (plague) was decimate europe ,but back then travel was just local mainly,today with airliners and the like things have capacity to go global in matter of weeks or even days..
Myself for one will not be buying any produce of Africa (bananas etc) there probably fine but id be thinking what if someone spat on them and May have Ebola à½Ã¸“
Guess the best method I isolation of infected communities.
Here in England near ne is a town that decided to do just that in 1600's when the black death (plague) was decimate europe ,but back then travel was just local mainly,today with airliners and the like things have capacity to go global in matter of weeks or even days..
Myself for one will not be buying any produce of Africa (bananas etc) there probably fine but id be thinking what if someone spat on them and May have Ebola à½Ã¸“
i'm sure the export from infected countries will stop. . A while back the export of ostrich meat from South Africa stopped due to bird flu. Its not a problem anymore so countries are importing again. The movement of goods through the boarders are a bigger concern.
detrimentum 2014/08/21 08:04
south africa is still allowing flights from infected areas. How stupid is that?
Quote: Eeprom: gosh here on uk news today uk port workers discovered 35 illegal immigrants locked inside a shipping container unfortunately one dead and fortunately the people are india regions ,,.....
Could have been very bad if they'd been from west african area where ebola is and they managed to not get caught and mingled into the population in budy city areas ,,london underground railway is very crowded always ,i dread someone's infected and coughing in one the carriages . Definitely EEEEK!
Could have been very bad if they'd been from west african area where ebola is and they managed to not get caught and mingled into the population in budy city areas ,,london underground railway is very crowded always ,i dread someone's infected and coughing in one the carriages . Definitely EEEEK!
south africa is still allowing flights from infected areas. How stupid is that?
Boet 2014/08/31 04:24
Ebola is HIGHLY contagious! And yes, even though it is contracted via bodily fluids, it is very important to know how varied body fluids occur. In blood, urine, mucus, tears, excrement, sweat, and even ear wax lurks the danger of contagious diseases. Our modern world, with all the modes of fast transport from coutry to country, and continent to continent, makes it so, so easy for contagious diseases to spread globally, and become ungovernable
Ebola is HIGHLY contagious! And yes, even though it is contracted via bodily fluids, it is very important to know how varied body fluids occur. In blood, urine, mucus, tears, excrement, sweat, and even ear wax lurks the danger of contagious diseases. Our modern world, with all the modes of fast transport from coutry to country, and continent to continent, makes it so, so easy for contagious diseases to spread globally, and become ungovernable
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