Something I had to Say.
Abhishek 2011/09/02 02:50
Abhishek 2011/09/02 02:50
I had to reply Haris's post, but sparko closed that topic. So I'm starting a new thread here. Other people are also welcome to share their views.... =)
First you tell me at what point exactly did I disrespected you religion? -boggle-
Now secondly, You say you respect our religion. Let me ask you something here...
1- "Do you believe in our gods?"
2- "Do you or do you not, call them 'False Idols'?" (A big disrespect I'd say.)
3- "You do not bow down to them?"
You say that respecting other religion's scriptures, commands and emotions is also a part of respecting those religions, right?
But you don't even do that. You don't follow commands written in our scriptures. You simply reject everything written in our scriptures about our gods. And by doing that you hurt and disrespect the sentiments and emotions.
Now you tell me, What is there left that you actually respect? =)
Now I really think mentioning Bukhari is a complete waste of time because clearly that person is completely out of his mind, But since you seem to agree with him, I had to write a few things about that. Hopefully that will change your mind about this person, who clearly doesn't want Hindu-Muslims to live in peace as he always speaks about Hindu-Muslim Riots whenever he opens his mouth.
I think the Shahi Imam does not deserve his title or office because he seems to be ignorant of what Islam teaches and the spiritual meaning and message of Vande Mataram. I propose to try and introduce the Imam to the nobility of Islam, which he does not understand.
No Muslim member objected to Vande Mataram being sung at the time of Independence. This is a requirement for national solidarity and integration. The Shahi Imam's repudiation of Vande Mataram is an act of betrayal of a solemn pledge and amounts to sedition and treason. I ask you: Must not one respect the earth which takes your excreta and converts it into the food you eat for nourishment and without which you will be dead? Remember that Anna is fighting to retrieve the stolen wealth of poor Muslims and Hindus alike.
If Bukhari continues to wallow in his misunderstanding of the teachings of the Holy Quran then logically he should treat India as Dar-ul-Harb. His plain duty is to migrate. India would be perfectly justified in depriving him of his citizenship.
What the Imam should be teaching his followers are poems of Kabir:
To be honest, most of the educated and open minded Muslim brothers here has stopped listening to his bullshxt and I hope soon you will too. =)
Haris: this really made me laughsmiley
u knw wat? Wat u sayin is ur not doin it actually. Yes i mean ur disrespectin My religion here. Anways!
Lemme ask u wat exactly do knw wat exactly 'disrespectin some othr religion' means?
Respectin othr religion's scriptures, commands, emotions etc is also a part of givin respect to othr religions.
And yes, Islam doesnt permit us to bow down infront of any1. Whoever or watever it may be. It is command of ALLAH. and we wil obey it. If i dnt do wat u do, doesnt mean m disrespectin ur religion.. Wil it?
Comin to ur Bukhari's comment, itz true Islamic rules doesnt confirm to 'Vande mataram' song.
Coz it means to say 'we bow down to our motherland'. As i said, we dnt bow down infront of anybody or anythng.. Except Allah azawajall..
If u dnt like, then itz as gud n clear as disrespectin my religion..
u knw wat? Wat u sayin is ur not doin it actually. Yes i mean ur disrespectin My religion here. Anways!
Lemme ask u wat exactly do knw wat exactly 'disrespectin some othr religion' means?
Respectin othr religion's scriptures, commands, emotions etc is also a part of givin respect to othr religions.
And yes, Islam doesnt permit us to bow down infront of any1. Whoever or watever it may be. It is command of ALLAH. and we wil obey it. If i dnt do wat u do, doesnt mean m disrespectin ur religion.. Wil it?
Comin to ur Bukhari's comment, itz true Islamic rules doesnt confirm to 'Vande mataram' song.
Coz it means to say 'we bow down to our motherland'. As i said, we dnt bow down infront of anybody or anythng.. Except Allah azawajall..
If u dnt like, then itz as gud n clear as disrespectin my religion..
First you tell me at what point exactly did I disrespected you religion? -boggle-
Now secondly, You say you respect our religion. Let me ask you something here...
1- "Do you believe in our gods?"
2- "Do you or do you not, call them 'False Idols'?" (A big disrespect I'd say.)
3- "You do not bow down to them?"
You say that respecting other religion's scriptures, commands and emotions is also a part of respecting those religions, right?
But you don't even do that. You don't follow commands written in our scriptures. You simply reject everything written in our scriptures about our gods. And by doing that you hurt and disrespect the sentiments and emotions.
Now you tell me, What is there left that you actually respect? =)
Now I really think mentioning Bukhari is a complete waste of time because clearly that person is completely out of his mind, But since you seem to agree with him, I had to write a few things about that. Hopefully that will change your mind about this person, who clearly doesn't want Hindu-Muslims to live in peace as he always speaks about Hindu-Muslim Riots whenever he opens his mouth.
I think the Shahi Imam does not deserve his title or office because he seems to be ignorant of what Islam teaches and the spiritual meaning and message of Vande Mataram. I propose to try and introduce the Imam to the nobility of Islam, which he does not understand.
No Muslim member objected to Vande Mataram being sung at the time of Independence. This is a requirement for national solidarity and integration. The Shahi Imam's repudiation of Vande Mataram is an act of betrayal of a solemn pledge and amounts to sedition and treason. I ask you: Must not one respect the earth which takes your excreta and converts it into the food you eat for nourishment and without which you will be dead? Remember that Anna is fighting to retrieve the stolen wealth of poor Muslims and Hindus alike.
If Bukhari continues to wallow in his misunderstanding of the teachings of the Holy Quran then logically he should treat India as Dar-ul-Harb. His plain duty is to migrate. India would be perfectly justified in depriving him of his citizenship.
What the Imam should be teaching his followers are poems of Kabir:
To be honest, most of the educated and open minded Muslim brothers here has stopped listening to his bullshxt and I hope soon you will too. =)
TheOne 2012/10/04 10:39
And my dear gold member,Yes The dead ppl can't be God,not for my scientific belief,so I don't believe in islam...M I disrespecting by ur theory?
haris: @ abhishek, yes idols cant be God. Not for my belief. So i dnt believe in Hinduism.. If i did, then i wud hav been followin it..rite?
Same wid u.. It doesnt mean i disrespect..
And on that song, i think i hav already very clearly explained u in my very 1st post..
Same wid u.. It doesnt mean i disrespect..
And on that song, i think i hav already very clearly explained u in my very 1st post..
And my dear gold member,Yes The dead ppl can't be God,not for my scientific belief,so I don't believe in islam...M I disrespecting by ur theory?
haris 2012/10/04 11:07
I didnt even say or believe, people can be God. Who eat, live, breathe, die etc. Cant be God for me..
TheOne: And my dear gold member,Yes The dead ppl can't be God,not for my scientific belief,so I don't believe in islam...M I disrespecting by ur theory?
when did i say dead people can be God? -boggel-
I didnt even say or believe, people can be God. Who eat, live, breathe, die etc. Cant be God for me..
accuser!
jay6600 2012/10/04 21:39
ITS 100% OBVIOUS ITS YPOU as i already said welldone i hope your proud what you acheived ..prettysoon this site wont exist
ITS 100% OBVIOUS ITS YPOU as i already said welldone i hope your proud what you acheived ..prettysoon this site wont exist
jay6600 2012/10/04 21:44
well lets just say several peoples predictions did came true today ,,anyhows gumslone will be on the case soon he aint an arsehole like other staffs hes THE OWNER HE HE HE your a newwbee girl you dont remember when this site was topps
well lets just say several peoples predictions did came true today ,,anyhows gumslone will be on the case soon he aint an arsehole like other staffs hes THE OWNER HE HE HE your a newwbee girl you dont remember when this site was topps
Manal 2012/10/04 21:46
Im newbee???????????
Ask DesertLady if im newbie
jay6600: well lets just say several peoples predictions did came true today ,,anyhows gumslone will be on the case soon he aint an arsehole like other staffs hes THE OWNER HE HE HE your a newwbee girl you dont remember when this site was topps
Im newbee???????????Ask DesertLady if im newbie
jay6600 2012/10/04 21:47
oh ur not a newbee so youll be rember goldcoaster then??? crap i aint had jayy6600 verry long i had eprom
oh ur not a newbee so youll be rember goldcoaster then??? crap i aint had jayy6600 verry long i had eprom
jay6600 2012/10/04 21:50
anyhows yhis is FIN youve got what you wanted now lets see what i get eh???cos i sometimes take without askin ask liam?? ha ha ha
anyhows yhis is FIN youve got what you wanted now lets see what i get eh???cos i sometimes take without askin ask liam?? ha ha ha
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